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Message-ID: <f92a5ef9-04b9-d6fa-a7f8-c855a87cd0fb@redhat.com>
Date:   Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:53:33 +0800
From:   Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:     Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@...cle.com>,
        Cornelia Huck <cohuck@...hat.com>
Cc:     mst@...hat.com, virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        linux-block@...r.kernel.org, axboe@...nel.dk,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: virtio-blk: should num_vqs be limited by num_possible_cpus()?


On 2019/3/19 上午10:22, Dongli Zhang wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> On 3/18/19 3:47 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 2019/3/15 下午8:41, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:50:11 +0800
>>> Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or something like I proposed several years ago?
>>>> https://do-db2.lkml.org/lkml/2014/12/25/169
>>>>
>>>> Btw, for virtio-net, I think we actually want to go for having a maximum
>>>> number of supported queues like what hardware did. This would be useful
>>>> for e.g cpu hotplug or XDP (requires per cpu TX queue). But the current
>>>> vector allocation doesn't support this which will results all virtqueues
>>>> to share a single vector. We may indeed need more flexible policy here.
>>> I think it should be possible for the driver to give the transport
>>> hints how to set up their queues/interrupt structures. (The driver
>>> probably knows best about its requirements.) Perhaps whether a queue is
>>> high or low frequency, or whether it should be low latency, or even
>>> whether two queues could share a notification mechanism without
>>> drawbacks. It's up to the transport to make use of that information, if
>>> possible.
>>
>> Exactly and it was what the above series tried to do by providing hints of e.g
>> which queues want to share a notification.
>>
> I read about your patch set on providing more flexibility of queue-to-vector
> mapping.
>
> One use case of the patch set is we would be able to enable more queues when
> there is limited number of vectors.
>
> Another use case we may classify queues as hight priority or low priority as
> mentioned by Cornelia.
>
> For virtio-blk, we may extend virtio-blk based on this patch set to enable
> something similar to write_queues/poll_queues in nvme, when (set->nr_maps != 1).
>
>
> Yet, the question I am asking in this email thread is for a difference scenario.
>
> The issue is not we are not having enough vectors (although this is why only 1
> vector is allocated for all virtio-blk queues). As so far virtio-blk has
> (set->nr_maps == 1), block layer would limit the number of hw queues by
> nr_cpu_ids, we indeed do not need more than nr_cpu_ids hw queues in virtio-blk.
>
> That's why I ask why not change the flow as below options when the number of
> supported hw queues is more than nr_cpu_ids (and set->nr_maps == 1. virtio-blk
> does not set nr_maps and block layer would set it to 1 when the driver does not
> specify with a value):
>
> option 1:
> As what nvme and xen-netfront do, limit the hw queue number by nr_cpu_ids.


How do they limit the hw queue number? A command?


>
> option 2:
> If the vectors is not enough, use the max number vector (indeed nr_cpu_ids) as
> number of hw queues.


We can share vectors in this case.


>
> option 3:
> We should allow more vectors even the block layer would support at most
> nr_cpu_ids queues.
>
>
> I understand a new policy for queue-vector mapping is very helpful. I am just
> asking the question from block layer's point of view.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Dongli Zhang


Don't know much for block, cc Stefan for more idea.

Thanks

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