lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:33:56 +0100
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:     Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
Cc:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Qian Cai <cai@....pw>,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, cl@...ux.com, penberg@...nel.org,
        rientjes@...gle.com, iamjoonsoo.kim@....com, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] kmemleaak: survive in a low-memory situation

On Tue 26-03-19 16:20:41, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 09:05:36AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Qian Cai wrote:
> > > Unless there is a brave soul to reimplement the kmemleak to embed it's
> > > metadata into the tracked memory itself in a foreseeable future, this
> > > provides a good balance between enabling kmemleak in a low-memory
> > > situation and not introducing too much hackiness into the existing
> > > code for now.
> > 
> > I don't understand kmemleak.  Kirill pointed me at this a few days ago:
> > 
> > https://gist.github.com/kiryl/3225e235fea390aa2e49bf625bbe83ec
> > 
> > It's caused by the XArray allocating memory using GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN.
> > kmemleak then decides it needs to allocate memory to track this memory.
> > So it calls kmem_cache_alloc(object_cache, gfp_kmemleak_mask(gfp));
> > 
> > #define gfp_kmemleak_mask(gfp)  (((gfp) & (GFP_KERNEL | GFP_ATOMIC)) | \
> >                                  __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOMEMALLOC | \
> >                                  __GFP_NOWARN | __GFP_NOFAIL)
> > 
> > then the page allocator gets to see GFP_NOFAIL | GFP_NOWAIT and gets angry.
> > 
> > But I don't understand why kmemleak needs to mess with the GFP flags at
> > all.
> 
> Originally, it was just preserving GFP_KERNEL | GFP_ATOMIC. Starting
> with commit 6ae4bd1f0bc4 ("kmemleak: Allow kmemleak metadata allocations
> to fail"), this mask changed, aimed at making kmemleak allocation
> failures less verbose (i.e. just disable it since it's a debug tool).
> 
> Commit d9570ee3bd1d ("kmemleak: allow to coexist with fault injection")
> introduced __GFP_NOFAIL but this came with its own problems which have
> been previously reported (the warning you mentioned is another one of
> these). We didn't get to any clear conclusion on how best to allow
> allocations to fail with fault injection but not for the kmemleak
> metadata. Your suggestion below would probably do the trick.

I have objected to that on several occasions. An implicit __GFP_NOFAIL
is simply broken and __GFP_NOWAIT allocations are a shiny example of
that. You cannot loop inside the allocator for an unbound amount of time
potentially with locks held. I have heard that there are some plans to
deal with that but nothing has really materialized AFAIK. d9570ee3bd1d
should be reverted I believe.

The proper way around is to keep a pool objects and keep spare objects
for restrected allocation contexts.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ