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Message-ID: <CAG_fn=UiWCEHUaA71nozUbY7G8g7ZH0ni8Lut=hKVr_rNNC3pw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:37:30 +0200
From:   Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>
To:     David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>
Cc:     "paulmck@...ux.ibm.com" <paulmck@...ux.ibm.com>,
        "hpa@...or.com" <hpa@...or.com>,
        "peterz@...radead.org" <peterz@...radead.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "dvyukov@...gle.com" <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        "jyknight@...gle.com" <jyknight@...gle.com>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/asm: fix assembly constraints in bitops

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 2:35 PM Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:44 PM David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Alexander Potapenko
> > > Sent: 02 April 2019 12:28
> > >
> > > 1. Use memory clobber in bitops that touch arbitrary memory
> > >
> > > Certain bit operations that read/write bits take a base pointer and an
> > > arbitrarily large offset to address the bit relative to that base.
> >
> > Although x86_64 can use a signed 64bit bit number, looking at arm and arm64
> > they use 'int nr' throughout as do the generic functions.
> > Maybe x86 ought to be consistent here.
> > I doubt negative bit numbers are expected to work?
> I don't have a strong opinion on this, but the corresponding Intel
> instructions do accept 64-bit operands.
>
> > Did you try telling gcc that a big buffer (250MB is the limit for 32bit)
> > from the pointer might be changed?
> Yes, I did, see
> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1966993.html
> This still isn't a silver bullet, e.g. I saw an example where touching
> a function parameter cast to a big buffer in the assembly resulted in
> clobbering a global.
> Moreover, one can imagine a situation where such a trick may be harmful, e.g.:
>
> void foo(int size) {
>   struct arr {
>     long val[1U<<28];
>   };
>   long *bitmap = malloc(size);
>   asm("#do something" : "+m"(*(struct arr*)bitmap);
>   if (size < 1024)
>     process(bitmap[size]);
(let it be bitmap[size-2] so that we don't overflow the buffer)
> }
>
> If a (smart enough) compiler knows that malloc(size) returns a pointer
> to |size| bytes in memory, it may assume that |size| is at least
> 1U<<28 (because otherwise it's incorrect to treat |bitmap| as a
> pointer to a big array) and delete the size check.
> This is of course a synthetic example, but not a completely impossible one.
>
> > That ought to be softer than a full 'memory' clobber as it should
> > only affect memory that could be accessed through the pointer.
> >
> > ....
> > > -#define BITOP_ADDR(x) "+m" (*(volatile long *) (x))
> > > +#define RLONG_ADDR(x) "m" (*(volatile long *) (x))
> > > +#define WBYTE_ADDR(x) "+m" (*(volatile char *) (x))
> > >
> > > -#define ADDR                         BITOP_ADDR(addr)
> > > +#define ADDR                         RLONG_ADDR(addr)
> >
> > Is it worth just killing ADDR ?
> > (as a different patch)
> Agreed.
> >         David
> >
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>
>
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