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Message-ID: <SN6PR12MB2639F1786ED9F6BD261B1632F82E0@SN6PR12MB2639.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Date:   Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:41:47 +0000
From:   "Ghannam, Yazen" <Yazen.Ghannam@....com>
To:     Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
CC:     "linux-edac@...r.kernel.org" <linux-edac@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "tony.luck@...el.com" <tony.luck@...el.com>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH RESEND 2/5] x86/MCE: Handle MCA controls in a per_cpu way

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-edac-owner@...r.kernel.org <linux-edac-owner@...r.kernel.org> On Behalf Of Borislav Petkov
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 12:26 PM
> To: Ghannam, Yazen <Yazen.Ghannam@....com>
> Cc: linux-edac@...r.kernel.org; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; tony.luck@...el.com; x86@...nel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 2/5] x86/MCE: Handle MCA controls in a per_cpu way
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 04:58:12PM +0000, Ghannam, Yazen wrote:
> > Yes, unused banks in the middle are counted in the MCG_CAP[Count] value.
> 
> Good.
> 
> > Okay, so you're saying the sysfs access should fail if a bank is
> > disabled. Is that correct?
> 
> Well, think about it. If a bank is not operational for whatever reason,
> we should tell the user that.
> 
> > Does "disabled" mean one or both of these?
> > Unused = RAZ/WI in hardware
> > Uninitialized = Not initialized by kernel due to quirks, etc.
> >
> > For an unused bank, it doesn't hurt to write MCA_CTL, but really
> > there's no reason to do so and go through mce_restart().
> 
> Yes, but that bank is non-operational in some form. So we should prevent
> all writes to it because, well, it is not going to do anything. And this
> would be a good way to give feedback to the user that that is the case.
> 
> > For an uninitialized bank, should we prevent users from overriding the
> > kernel's settings?
> 
> That all depends on the quirks. Whether we should allow them to be
> overridden or not. I don't think we've ever thought about it, though.
> 
> Let's look at one:
> 
>         if (c->x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_AMD) {
>                 if (c->x86 == 15 && cfg->banks > 4) {
>                         /*
>                          * disable GART TBL walk error reporting, which
>                          * trips off incorrectly with the IOMMU & 3ware
>                          * & Cerberus:
>                          */
>                         clear_bit(10, (unsigned long *)&mce_banks[4].ctl);
> 
> 
> Yah, so if the user reenables those GART errors, then she/he will see a
> lot of MCEs reported and will maybe complain about it. And then we'll
> say, but why did you enable them then. And she/he'll say: uh, didn't
> know. Or, I was just poking at sysfs and this happened.
> 
> Then we can say, well, don't do that then! :-)
> 
> So my current position is, meh, who cares. But then I'm looking at
> another quirk:
> 
>         if (c->x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_INTEL) {
>                 /*
>                  * SDM documents that on family 6 bank 0 should not be written
>                  * because it aliases to another special BIOS controlled
>                  * register.
>                  * But it's not aliased anymore on model 0x1a+
>                  * Don't ignore bank 0 completely because there could be a
>                  * valid event later, merely don't write CTL0.
>                  */
> 
>                 if (c->x86 == 6 && c->x86_model < 0x1A && cfg->banks > 0)
>                         mce_banks[0].init = 0;
> 
> 
> which basically prevents that bank from being reinitialized. So I guess
> we have that functionality already - we simply need to pay attention to
> w->init.
> 
> Right?

Okay, I'm with you.

So I'm thinking to add another patch to the set. This will set mce_bank.init=0 if we read MCA_CTL=0 from the hardware.

Then we check if mce_bank.init=0 in the set/show functions and give a message if the bank is not used.

How does that sound?

Thanks,
Yazen

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