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Date:   Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:54:17 -0300
From:   Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org>
To:     Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc:     Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...radead.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Andrew Jeffery <andrew@...id.au>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.com>,
        Joel Stanley <joel@....id.au>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-aspeed@...ts.ozlabs.org, linux-hwmon@...r.kernel.org,
        linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, Liviu Dudau <liviu.dudau@....com>,
        Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
        Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
        Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/21] Convert hwmon documentation to ReST

Em Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:07:31 -0700
Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> escreveu:

> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:43:57PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:43:24 -0600
> > Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net> escreveu:
> >   
> > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 16:22:37 -0300
> > > Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > This series converts the contents of Documentation/hwmon to ReST
> > > > format.
> > > > 
> > > > PS.: I opted to group the conversion files per groups of maintainer
> > > > set, as, if I were to generate one patch per file, it would give around
> > > > 160 patches.
> > > > 
> > > > I also added those patches to my development tree at:
> > > > 	https://git.linuxtv.org/mchehab/experimental.git/log/?h=hwmon
> > > > 
> > > > If you want to see the results, they're at:
> > > > 	https://www.infradead.org/~mchehab/hwmon/    
> > > 
> > > This set seems generally good and could probably be applied as-is.  But I
> > > have to ask...is there a reason to not take the last step and actually
> > > bring this stuff into the Sphinx doc tree?
> > > 
> > > We seem to be mostly documenting sysfs files and such.  I am *guessing*
> > > that perhaps the set should move to Documentation/admin-guide/hwmon?  Or
> > > have I misunderstood the intended audience here?  
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > Yeah, I'd say that 80% of the contents there are user-faced.
> > 
> > Yet, the main issue with this (and other driver subsystems) is that there's
> > a mix of userspace and Kernelspace stuff. One somewhat simple case is
> > the abituguru: it has a "datasheet" file:
> > 
> > 	abituguru-datasheet
> > 
> > This contains programming information for the corresponding drivers,
> > while abituguru and abituguru3 contains mostly userspace
> > stuff (still, it also contains the I2C address, with shouldn't mean
> > anything for the user).
> > 
> > However, if you take a look at w83781d, you'll see a mix of both
> > userspace and driver developer info there... it has a chapter called
> > "Data sheet updates", for example, with is probably meaningless for
> > anyone but the hwmon driver developers.
> > 
> > That's, btw, a pattern that happens a lot inside device driver
> > documents on almost all subsystems I checked: driver-specific
> > documentation is usually not split into user-facing/kernel-facing.
> > 
> > While nobody does such split, IMHO, the best would be to keep the
> > information outside Documentation/admin-guide. But hey! You're
> > the Doc maintainer. If you prefer to move, I'm perfectly fine
> > with that.
> >   
> 
> Same here, but please don't move the files which are kernel facing only.
> 
> How do you want to handle this series ? Do you expect it to be pushed
> through hwmon, or through Documentation, or do you plan to push yourself ?
> 
> If the series isn't pushed through hwmon, we'll likely have a couple of
> conflicts against hwmon-next.

Guenter,

I won't be pushing it myself. IMO, it makes more sense to apply it at
hwmon-next, except if it would cause some conflicts against docs-next.

Regards,
Mauro

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