linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] tty: Add NULL TTY driver

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Date:   Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:40:56 +0200
From:   "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@...ux.net>
To:     "Adamski, Krzysztof (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)" 
        <krzysztof.adamski@...ia.com>
Cc:     Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@...s.com>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "jslaby@...e.com" <jslaby@...e.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tty: Add NULL TTY driver

On 12.04.19 09:30, Adamski, Krzysztof (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw) wrote:

> Well, that depends. If the program doing those writes expects /dev/console
> to be a tty device, then it cannot be any file. 

According to Vincent's mail, the actual problem is just systemd.
Changing the kernel just for making one specific userland program
(which happens to be written by somebody, who even doesn't know the
semantics of rm -R) happy, sounds pretty strange for me.

I'm not opposed to the general idea of having a dummy tty driver,
but please for some actually sane usecases, not just working around
broken userland :p


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