linux-kernel - Re: EFI reboot vs. ACPI reboot (was: Re: [tip:x86/urgent] x86/reboot, efi: Use EFI reboot for Acer TravelMate X514-51T)

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Date:   Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:38:41 +0800
From:   Daniel Drake <drake@...lessm.com>
To:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jian-Hong Pan <jian-hong@...lessm.com>,
        matt@...eblueprint.co.uk,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>, hpa@...or.com,
        linux-efi@...r.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
        linux-tip-commits@...r.kernel.org,
        Endless Linux Upstreaming Team <linux@...lessm.com>
Subject: Re: EFI reboot vs. ACPI reboot (was: Re: [tip:x86/urgent] x86/reboot,
 efi: Use EFI reboot for Acer TravelMate X514-51T)

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:16 PM Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:
> Ok, so acpi_gbl_reduced_hardware is set when the ... 'reduced hardware'
> bit is set:
>
>         acpi_gbl_reduced_hardware = FALSE;
>         if (acpi_gbl_FADT.flags & ACPI_FADT_HW_REDUCED) {
>                 acpi_gbl_reduced_hardware = TRUE;
>         }
>
>
> which is described as:
>
>  #define ACPI_FADT_HW_REDUCED        (1<<20)     /* 20: [V5] ACPI hardware is not implemented (ACPI 5.0) */
>
> That seems counter-intuitive to me: if no full ACPI hardware is
> implemented then we should assume reduced ACPI functionality, i.e. if the
> EFI runtime is otherwise available we should default to it.

It's a bit confusing, but my loose understanding is that previous
versions of the ACPI spec required system implementors to implement
the whole thing; but that's increasingly impractical today, e.g. with
ARM systems coming along, which do not gel well with some of the
historical x86-rooted design aspects that spilled over into ACPI. The
V5 spec introduces reduced mode as an opt-in new feature, but for
compatibility with pre-V5 implementations it needs to consider "full
hardware" mode as the default.

> Feel free to send a patch that makes EFI reboot the default one under
> these circumstances,

Just to check, you mean: EFI reboot (and shutdown) become the default
methods when the machine is booted in EFI mode, and EFI stuff has not
been disabled with a kernel parameter?
Even when running in full hardware ACPI mode.

Thanks
Daniel