linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 04/11] arm64, mm: Move generic mmap layout functions to mm

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Message-ID: <CAGXu5j+NkQ+nwRShuKeHMwuy6++3x0QMS9djE=wUzUUtAkVf3g@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:19:18 -0500
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     Alex Ghiti <alex@...ti.fr>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Ralf Baechle <ralf@...ux-mips.org>,
        Paul Burton <paul.burton@...s.com>,
        James Hogan <jhogan@...nel.org>,
        Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...ive.com>,
        Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        linux-mips@...r.kernel.org, linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org,
        "linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/11] arm64, mm: Move generic mmap layout functions to mm

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:55 AM Alex Ghiti <alex@...ti.fr> wrote:
> Regarding the help text, I agree that it does not seem to be frequent to
> place
> comment above config like that, I'll let Christoph and you decide what's
> best. And I'll
> add the possibility for the arch to define its own STACK_RND_MASK.

Yeah, I think it's very helpful to spell out the requirements for new
architectures with these kinds of features in the help text (see
SECCOMP_FILTER for example).

> > I think CONFIG_ARCH_WANT_DEFAULT_TOPDOWN_MMAP_LAYOUT should select
> > CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE. It would mean moving
>
>
> I don't think we should link those 2 features together: an architecture
> may want
> topdown mmap and don't care about randomization right ?

Given that the mmap randomization and stack randomization are already
coming along for the ride, it seems weird to make brk randomization an
optional feature (especially since all the of the architectures you're
converting include it). I'd also like these kinds of security features
to be available by default. So, I think one patch to adjust the MIPS
brk randomization entropy and then you can just include it in this
move.

> Actually, I had to add those ifdefs for mmap_rnd_compat_bits, not
> is_compat_task.

Oh! In that case, use CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS. :) Actually,
what would be maybe cleaner would be to add mmap_rnd_bits_min/max
consts set to 0 for the non-CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS case at the
top of mm/mmap.c.

I really like this clean-up! I think we can move x86 to it too without
too much pain. :)

-- 
Kees Cook