linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v17 1/3] proc: add /proc/<pid>/arch

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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1904261532410.1863@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
Date:   Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:38:30 +0200 (CEST)
From:   Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:     "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@...ux.net>
cc:     "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>, mingo@...hat.com,
        peterz@...radead.org, hpa@...or.com, ak@...ux.intel.com,
        tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com, dave.hansen@...el.com,
        arjan@...ux.intel.com, adobriyan@...il.com,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, aubrey.li@...el.com,
        linux-api@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 1/3] proc: add /proc/<pid>/arch_status

On Fri, 26 Apr 2019, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 25.04.19 12:50, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Apr 2019, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> > 
> >> On 25.04.19 12:42, Li, Aubrey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yep, I'll make it disabled by default and not switchable and let arch select it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> That's not quite what I've suggested. Instead:
> >>
> >> #1: make the switch depend on the arch's that support it
> > 
> > No. That's what select is for.
> 
> Just for clarification: I've proposed the depend, because not only some
> archs will support it - and avoid masses of #ifdef's in the code.
> Therefore, it can only be enabled, when the archi supports it.

What has the way how you enable support to do with masses of #ifdefs?
Absolutely nothing.

> But if you insist in not having it configurable, letting the arch just
> select this feature, your approach makes sense.

Even if you make it configurable, then having:

     depends on ARCH1 ... ARCHN

is just wrong. That's what dependency config symbols are for which can be
selected by the arch.
 
> >> #2: still leave it selectable to the user, so somebody who doesn't need
> >>     it, can just disable it.
> > 
> > Well, the number of knobs is exploding over time and the number of people
> > actually tweaking them is close to 0. So no, we don't want to have the
> > extra tunable for everything and the world.
> 
> The great configurability often is one of the major arguments for using
> Linux in the first place.
> 
> Would you propose killing all the CONFIG_EMBEDDED/CONFIG_EXPERT
> related knobs ?

No, but adding knobs for every tiny piece of code does not make the whole
thing any better in terms of usability and maintainability.

Thanks,

	tglx