linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: randomize kernel stack offset upon syscall

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Date:   Wed, 1 May 2019 16:33:35 -0700
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
To:     David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>
Cc:     "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@...el.com>,
        "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com>,
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        "herbert@...dor.apana.org.au" <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
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        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
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        "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: randomize kernel stack offset upon syscall

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:42 AM David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com> wrote:
>
> From: Reshetova, Elena
> > Sent: 30 April 2019 18:51
> ...
> > +unsigned char random_get_byte(void)
> > +{
> > +    struct rnd_buffer *buffer = &get_cpu_var(stack_rand_offset);
> > +    unsigned char res;
> > +
> > +    if (buffer->byte_counter >= RANDOM_BUFFER_SIZE) {
> > +        get_random_bytes(&(buffer->buffer), sizeof(buffer->buffer));
> > +        buffer->byte_counter = 0;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    res = buffer->buffer[buffer->byte_counter];
> > +    buffer->buffer[buffer->byte_counter] = 0;
>
> If is really worth dirtying a cache line to zero data we've used?
> The unused bytes following are much more interesting.
>

For this particular use case, zeroing is probably worthless.  But, for
the general case of get_random_bytes(), we need to zero, and I would
argue that get_random_bytes() should be doing exactly this in general.