linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] x86/fpu: Remove the _GPL from the kernel_fpu

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Message-ID: <20190504064041.GB26311@kroah.com>
Date:   Sat, 4 May 2019 08:40:41 +0200
From:   Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Sebastian Gottschall <s.gottschall@...media-net.de>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Nicolai Stange <nstange@...e.de>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@...hat.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, x86@...nel.org,
        stable@...r.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina <jikos@...os.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/fpu: Remove the _GPL from the kernel_fpu_begin/end()
 export

On Sat, May 04, 2019 at 04:28:17AM +0200, Sebastian Gottschall wrote:
> 
> Am 04.05.2019 um 02:47 schrieb Ingo Molnar:
> > * Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2 May 2019, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Please don't start this. We have everything _GPL that is used for FPU
> > > > related code and only a few functions are exported because KVM needs it.
> > > That's not completely true. There are a lot of static inlines out there,
> > > which basically made it possible for external modules to use FPU (in some
> > > way) when they had kernel_fpu_[begin|end]() available.
> > > 
> > > I personally don't care about ZFS a tiny little bit; but in general, the
> > > current situation with _GPL and non-_GPL exports is simply not nice. It's
> > > not really about licensing (despite the name), it's about 'internal vs
> > > external', which noone is probably able to define properly.
> > But that's exactly what licensing *IS* about: the argument is that
> > 'internal' interfaces are clear proof that the binary module is actually
> > a derived work of the kernel.
> Using fpu code in kernel space in a kernel module is a derived work of the
> kernel itself?
> dont get me wrong, but this is absurd. i mean you limit the use of cpu
> instructions. the use
> of cpu instructions should be free of any licensing issue. i would even
> argument you are violating
> the license of the cpu ower given to the kernel by executing it, by
> restricting its use for no reason

Now you are just being crazy, please go talk to a lawyer about how the
GPL actually works.

If Andy wants to change the symbol of what he wrote from
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL() to EXPORT_SYMBOL(), that's fine, it's his option.
Any loony discussion about if this is actually a licensing issue or not
needs to just go to /dev/null

As homework, everyone please go read this:
	http://softwarefreedom.org/resources/2014/SFLC-Guide_to_GPL_Compliance_2d_ed.pdf
and remember that the license of the Linux kernel is GPLv2.

Now where's the "kill this thread" option on mutt so I don't have to see
any more of this nonsense...

greg k-h