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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.9999.1905131704371.21198@viisi.sifive.com>
Date:   Mon, 13 May 2019 17:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
From:   Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>
To:     Atish Patra <atish.patra@....com>
cc:     Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "mark.rutland@....com" <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
        Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>,
        Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...ive.com>,
        Zong Li <zong@...estech.com>,
        "merker@...ian.org" <merker@...ian.org>,
        "linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [v2 PATCH] RISC-V: Add a PE/COFF compliant Image header.

On Mon, 13 May 2019, Atish Patra wrote:

> On 5/13/19 3:31 PM, Paul Walmsley wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 May 2019, Atish Patra wrote:
> > 
> > > Currently, last stage boot loaders such as U-Boot can accept only
> > > uImage which is an unnecessary additional step in automating boot flows.
> > > 
> > > Add a PE/COFF compliant image header that boot loaders can parse and
> > > directly load kernel flat Image. The existing booting methods will
> > > continue
> > > to work as it is.
> > > 
> > > Another goal of this header is to support EFI stub for RISC-V in future.
> > > EFI specification needs PE/COFF image header in the beginning of the
> > > kernel
> > > image in order to load it as an EFI application. In order to support
> > > EFI stub, code0 should be replaced with "MZ" magic string and res5(at
> > > offset 0x3c) should point to the rest of the PE/COFF header (which will
> > > be added during EFI support).
> > > 
> > > Tested on both QEMU and HiFive Unleashed using OpenSBI + U-Boot + Linux.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Atish Patra <atish.patra@....com>
> > 
> > Seems like we're stuck with this basic format for EFI, etc.  Even though
> > we may be stuck with it, I think we should take the opportunity to add the
> > possibility to extending this header format by adding fields after the
> > basic PE/COFF header ends.
> > 
> > In particular, at the very least, I'd suggest adding a u32 after the
> > PE/COFF header ends, to represent a "RISC-V header format version number".
> > Then if we add more fields that follow the PE/COFF header -- for example,
> > to represent the RISC-V instruction set extensions that are required to
> > run this binary -- we can just bump that RISC-V-specific version number
> > field to indicate to bootloaders that there's more there.
> > 
> That would be inventing our RISC-V specific header format.  However, we 
> can always use the one of the reserved fields in proposed header (res4) 
> for this purpose.

What are the semantics of those reserved fields?

> Do we need to add it now or add it later when we actually need a version
> number. My preference is to add it later based on requirement.

If it isn't added now, how would bootloaders know whether it was there or 
not?


- Paul

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