linux-kernel - Re: [RFC KVM 18/27] kvm/isolation: function to copy page table entries for percpu buffer

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Date:   Tue, 14 May 2019 01:34:05 -0700
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:     Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@...cle.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@...hat.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        kvm list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
        jan.setjeeilers@...cle.com, Liran Alon <liran.alon@...cle.com>,
        Jonathan Adams <jwadams@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC KVM 18/27] kvm/isolation: function to copy page table entries for percpu buffer



> On May 14, 2019, at 1:25 AM, Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@...cle.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 5/14/19 9:09 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:18:41AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 7:39 AM Alexandre Chartre
>>> <alexandre.chartre@...cle.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> pcpu_base_addr is already mapped to the KVM address space, but this
>>>> represents the first percpu chunk. To access a per-cpu buffer not
>>>> allocated in the first chunk, add a function which maps all cpu
>>>> buffers corresponding to that per-cpu buffer.
>>>> 
>>>> Also add function to clear page table entries for a percpu buffer.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This needs some kind of clarification so that readers can tell whether
>>> you're trying to map all percpu memory or just map a specific
>>> variable.  In either case, you're making a dubious assumption that
>>> percpu memory contains no secrets.
>> I'm thinking the per-cpu random pool is a secrit. IOW, it demonstrably
>> does contain secrits, invalidating that premise.
> 
> The current code unconditionally maps the entire first percpu chunk
> (pcpu_base_addr). So it assumes it doesn't contain any secret. That is
> mainly a simplification for the POC because a lot of core information
> that we need, for example just to switch mm, are stored there (like
> cpu_tlbstate, current_task...).

I don’t think you should need any of this.

> 
> If the entire first percpu chunk effectively has secret then we will
> need to individually map only buffers we need. The kvm_copy_percpu_mapping()
> function is added to copy mapping for a specified percpu buffer, so
> this used to map percpu buffers which are not in the first percpu chunk.
> 
> Also note that mapping is constrained by PTE (4K), so mapped buffers
> (percpu or not) which do not fill a whole set of pages can leak adjacent
> data store on the same pages.
> 
> 

I would take a different approach: figure out what you need and put it in its own dedicated area, kind of like cpu_entry_area.

One nasty issue you’ll have is vmalloc: the kernel stack is in the vmap range, and, if you allow access to vmap memory at all, you’ll need some way to ensure that *unmap* gets propagated. I suspect the right choice is to see if you can avoid using the kernel stack at all in isolated mode.  Maybe you could run on the IRQ stack instead.