linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm: process_vm_mmap() -- syscall for duplication a process mapping

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Message-ID: <CAG48ez0itiEE1x=SXeMbjKvMGkrj7wxjM6c+ZB00LpXAAhqmiw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 16 May 2019 15:14:08 +0200
From:   Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
To:     Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...tuozzo.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>, keith.busch@...el.com,
        "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        pasha.tatashin@...cle.com,
        Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@...ux.intel.com>,
        ira.weiny@...el.com, Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>,
        arunks@...eaurora.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, hannes@...xchg.org,
        npiggin@...il.com,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>,
        Roman Gushchin <guro@...com>,
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        Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
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        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
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        kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm: process_vm_mmap() -- syscall for duplication
 a process mapping

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 3:03 PM Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...tuozzo.com> wrote:
> On 15.05.2019 21:46, Jann Horn wrote:
> > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 5:11 PM Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...tuozzo.com> wrote:
> >> This patchset adds a new syscall, which makes possible
> >> to clone a mapping from a process to another process.
> >> The syscall supplements the functionality provided
> >> by process_vm_writev() and process_vm_readv() syscalls,
> >> and it may be useful in many situation.
> >>
> >> For example, it allows to make a zero copy of data,
> >> when process_vm_writev() was previously used:
> > [...]
> >> This syscall may be used for page servers like in example
> >> above, for migration (I assume, even virtual machines may
> >> want something like this), for zero-copy desiring users
> >> of process_vm_writev() and process_vm_readv(), for debug
> >> purposes, etc. It requires the same permittions like
> >> existing proc_vm_xxx() syscalls have.
> >
> > Have you considered using userfaultfd instead? userfaultfd has
> > interfaces (UFFDIO_COPY and UFFDIO_ZERO) for directly shoving pages
> > into the VMAs of other processes. This works without the churn of
> > creating and merging VMAs all the time. userfaultfd is the interface
> > that was written to support virtual machine migration (and it supports
> > live migration, too).
>
> I know about userfaultfd, but it does solve the discussed problem.
> It allocates new pages to make UFFDIO_COPY (see mcopy_atomic_pte()),
> and it accumulates all the disadvantages, the example from [0/5]
> message has.

Sorry, right, I misremembered that.