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Date:   Sat, 18 May 2019 08:58:33 +0800
From:   "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Aubrey Li <aubrey.intel@...il.com>
Cc:     Julien Desfossez <jdesfossez@...italocean.com>,
        Vineeth Remanan Pillai <vpillai@...italocean.com>,
        Nishanth Aravamudan <naravamudan@...italocean.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Subhra Mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@...cle.com>,
        Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Greg Kerr <kerrnel@...gle.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@...hat.com>,
        Aaron Lu <aaron.lwe@...il.com>,
        Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@...ux.intel.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/17] Core scheduling v2

On 2019/4/30 12:42, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
>>> What's interesting is how in the over-saturated case (the last three
>>> rows: 128, 256 and 512 total threads) coresched-SMT leaves 20-30% CPU
>>> performance on the floor according to the load figures.
>>

Sorry for a delay, I got a chance to obtain some profiling results. Here
is the story on my side. I still used the previous testing 128/128 case
(256 threads totally), and focus on CPU53(randomly pickup) only.

Firstly, mpstat reports cpu utilization,
- baseline is 100%,
- coresched-SMT is 87.51%

Then I traced sched_switch trace point, in 100s sampling period,
- baseline context switch 14083 times, next task idle 0 times
- coresched-SMT context switch 15101 times, next task idle 880 times

So I guess pick_next_task() is mostly the interesting place, then I
dig into the trace log on coresched-SMT case:
- CPU53 selected idle task 767 times (matched with the data of sched_switch)

There are 3 branches of CPU53 selecting idle task in pick_next_task():
- pick pre selected 765 times
- unconstrained pick 1 times
- picked: swapper/53/0 1 times

Where CPU53's "pick pre selected idle task" from? I guess its from its
brother CPU1, so I checked CPU1's trace log and found:
- CPU1 helped its sibling CPU53 select idle task 800 times

So for CPU53, the most interesting part occurs in pick_task(), that is:
-The sibling CPU1 helped to select idle task in pick_task()

Forgive me to paste this routine() here:
=====================================================
+// XXX fairness/fwd progress conditions
+static struct task_struct *
+pick_task(struct rq *rq, const struct sched_class *class, struct task_struct *max)
+{
+	struct task_struct *class_pick, *cookie_pick;
+	unsigned long cookie = 0UL;
+
+	/*
+	 * We must not rely on rq->core->core_cookie here, because we fail to reset
+	 * rq->core->core_cookie on new picks, such that we can detect if we need
+	 * to do single vs multi rq task selection.
+	 */
+
+	if (max && max->core_cookie) {
+		WARN_ON_ONCE(rq->core->core_cookie != max->core_cookie);
+		cookie = max->core_cookie;
+	}
+
+	class_pick = class->pick_task(rq);
+	if (!cookie)
+		return class_pick;
+
+	cookie_pick = sched_core_find(rq, cookie);
+	if (!class_pick)
+		return cookie_pick;
+
+	/*
+	 * If class > max && class > cookie, it is the highest priority task on
+	 * the core (so far) and it must be selected, otherwise we must go with
+	 * the cookie pick in order to satisfy the constraint.
+	 */
+	if (cpu_prio_less(cookie_pick, class_pick) && core_prio_less(max, class_pick))
+		return class_pick;
+
+	return cookie_pick;
+}
=================================================================

And the most related log of the case:
=================================================================
<...>-21553 [001] dN.. 87341.514992: __schedule: cpu(1): selected: gemmbench/21294 ffff888823df8900
<...>-21553 [001] dN.. 87341.514992: __schedule: max: gemmbench/21294 ffff888823df8900
<...>-21553 [001] dN.. 87341.514995: __schedule: (swapper/53/0;140,0,0) ?< (sysbench/21503;140,457178607302,0)
<...>-21553 [001] dN.. 87341.514996: __schedule: (gemmbench/21294;119,219715519947,0) ?< (sysbench/21503;119,457178607302,0)
<...>-21553 [001] dN.. 87341.514996: __schedule: cpu(53): selected: swapper/53/0 0

It said,
- CPU1 selected gemmbench for itself
- and gemmbench was assigned to max of this core
- then CPU1 helped CPU53 to pick_task()
-- CPU1 used class->pick_task(), selected sysbench for CPU53
-- CPU1 used cookie_pick, selected swapper(idle task) for CPU53
-- the class_pick(sysbench) unfortunately didn't pass the priority check
- idle task picked up at the end(sadly).

So, I think if we want to improve CPU utilization under this scenario,
the straightforward tweak is picking up class_pick if cookie_pick is idle.
But I know, this is a violation of the design philosophy(avoid L1TF) of
this proposal.

Does it make sense to add a knob to switch security/performance?
Welcome any comments!

Thanks,
-Aubrey

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