Message-ID: <a9b11ba0-adca-f974-67a5-a0fe54689bba@xs4all.nl>
Date:   Mon, 27 May 2019 09:39:39 +0200
From:   Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl>
To:     Tomasz Figa <tfiga@...omium.org>
Cc:     Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@...aro.org>,
        Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Vikash Garodia <vgarodia@...eaurora.org>,
        Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@...omium.org>,
        Malathi Gottam <mgottam@...eaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] venus: dec: make decoder compliant with stateful
 codec API

On 5/27/19 5:51 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:27 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/21/19 11:09 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>> Hi Stan,
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:47 PM Stanimir Varbanov
>>> <stanimir.varbanov@...aro.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tomasz,
>>>>
>>>> On 4/24/19 3:39 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:15 PM Stanimir Varbanov
>>>>> <stanimir.varbanov@...aro.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/15/19 3:44 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Stanimir,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never paid much attention to this patch series since others were busy
>>>>>>> discussing it and I had a lot of other things on my plate, but then I heard
>>>>>>> that this patch made G_FMT blocking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, another option could be to block REQBUF(CAPTURE) until event from hw
>>>>>> is received that the stream is parsed and the resolution is correctly
>>>>>> set by application. Just to note that I'd think to this like a temporal
>>>>>> solution until gstreamer implements v4l events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that looks good to you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, I thought we concluded that gstreamer sets the width and height
>>>>> in OUTPUT queue before querying the CAPTURE queue and so making the
>>>>> driver calculate the CAPTURE format based on what's set on OUTPUT
>>>>> would work fine. Did I miss something?
>>>>
>>>> Nobody is miss something.
>>>>
>>>> First some background about how Venus implements stateful codec API.
>>>>
>>>> The Venus firmware can generate two events "sufficient" and
>>>> "insufficient" buffer requirements (this includes decoder output buffer
>>>> size and internal/scratch buffer sizes). Presently I always set minimum
>>>> possible decoder resolution no matter what the user said, and by that
>>>> way I'm sure that "insufficient" event will always be triggered by the
>>>> firmware (the other reason to take this path is because this is the
>>>> least-common-divider for all supported Venus hw/fw versions thus common
>>>> code in the driver). The reconfiguration (during codec Initialization
>>>> sequence) is made from STREAMON(CAPTURE) context. Now, to make that
>>>> re-configuration happen I need to wait for "insufficient" event from
>>>> firmware in order to know the real coded resolution.
>>>>
>>>> In the case of gstreamer where v4l2_events support is missing I have to
>>>> block (wait for firmware event) REQBUF(CAPTURE) (vb2::queue_setup) or
>>>> STREAMON(CAPTURE) (vb2::start_streaming).
>>>>
>>>> I tried to set the coded resolution to the firmware as-is it set by
>>>> gstreamer but then I cannot receive the "sufficient" event for VP8 and
>>>> VP9 codecs. So I return back to the solution with minimum resolution above.
>>>>
>>>> I'm open for suggestions.
>>>
>>> I think you could still keep setting the minimum size and wait for the
>>> "insufficient" event. At the same time, you could speculatively
>>> advertise the expected "sufficient" size on the CAPTURE queue before
>>> the hardware signals those. Even if you mispredict them, you'll get
>>> the event, update the CAPTURE resolution and send the source change
>>> event to the application, which would then give you the correct
>>> buffers. Would that work for you?
>>
>> As I understand it this still would require event support, which gstreamer
>> doesn't have.
> 
> I don't think it matches what I remember from the earlier discussion.
> As long as Gstreamer sets the visible resolution (from the container
> AFAIR) on OUTPUT, the driver would adjust it to something that is
> expected to be the right framebuffer resolution and so Gstreamer would
> be able to continue. Of course if the expected value doesn't match, it
> wouldn't work, but it's the same as currently for Coda AFAICT.
> 
>>
>> I think it is OK to have REQBUFS sleep in this case. However, I would only
> 
> Why REQBUFS? While that could possibly allow us to allocate the right
> buffers, Gstreamer wouldn't be able to know the right format, because
> it would query it before REQBUFS, wouldn't it?

Oops, you are right. It's got to be in G_FMT(CAPTURE), but *only* if
nobody subscribed to the SOURCE_CHANGE event.

> 
> For this reason, s5p-mfc makes G_FMT(CAPTURE) blocking and if we
> decide to forcefully keep the compatibility, even with in drivers, we
> should probably do the same here.
> 
>> enable this behavior if the application didn't subscribe to the SOURCE_CHANGE
>> event. That's easy enough to check in the driver. And that means that if the
>> application is well written, then the driver will behave in a completely
>> standard way that the compliance test can check.
> 
> I guess one could have some helpers for this. They would listen to the
> source change events internally and block / wake-up appropriate ioctls
> whenever necessary.

I really do not want this for new drivers. gstreamer should be fixed.
A blocking G_FMT is just plain bad. Only those drivers that do this, can
still block if nobody subscribed to EVENT_SOURCE_CHANGE.

> Another question: If we intend this to be implemented in new drivers
> too, should it be documented in the spec?

We most certainly do NOT want to implement this in new drivers.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz
> 

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