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Message-ID: <CAERHkruVthrTgGqiH=yhCspZWpMDAu0G4rNcrDTKQzgPq9eqQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 31 May 2019 13:12:40 +0800
From:   Aubrey Li <aubrey.intel@...il.com>
To:     Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...ux.alibaba.com>
Cc:     Vineeth Remanan Pillai <vpillai@...italocean.com>,
        Nishanth Aravamudan <naravamudan@...italocean.com>,
        Julien Desfossez <jdesfossez@...italocean.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Subhra Mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@...cle.com>,
        Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Greg Kerr <kerrnel@...gle.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@...hat.com>,
        Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@...ux.intel.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:01 AM Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>
> This feels like "date" failed to schedule on some CPU
> on time.
>
> My first reaction is: when shell wakes up from sleep, it will
> fork date. If the script is untagged and those workloads are
> tagged and all available cores are already running workload
> threads, the forked date can lose to the running workload
> threads due to __prio_less() can't properly do vruntime comparison
> for tasks on different CPUs. So those idle siblings can't run
> date and are idled instead. See my previous post on this:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190429033620.GA128241@aaronlu/
> (Now that I re-read my post, I see that I didn't make it clear
> that se_bash and se_hog are assigned different tags(e.g. hog is
> tagged and bash is untagged).

Yes, script is untagged. This looks like exactly the problem in you
previous post. I didn't follow that, does that discussion lead to a solution?

>
> Siblings being forced idle is expected due to the nature of core
> scheduling, but when two tasks belonging to two siblings are
> fighting for schedule, we should let the higher priority one win.
>
> It used to work on v2 is probably due to we mistakenly
> allow different tagged tasks to schedule on the same core at
> the same time, but that is fixed in v3.

I have 64 threads running on a 104-CPU server, that is, when the
system has ~40% idle time, and "date" is still failed to be picked
up onto CPU on time. This may be the nature of core scheduling,
but it seems to be far from fairness.

Shouldn't we share the core between (sysbench+gemmbench)
and (date)? I mean core level sharing instead of  "date" starvation?

Thanks,
-Aubrey

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