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Message-ID: <1559293922.14762.2.camel@amazon.de>
Date:   Fri, 31 May 2019 09:12:03 +0000
From:   "Raslan, KarimAllah" <karahmed@...zon.de>
To:     "Sironi, Filippo" <sironi@...zon.de>,
        "Graf, Alexander" <graf@...zon.com>
CC:     "boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "cohuck@...hat.com" <cohuck@...hat.com>,
        "konrad.wilk@...cle.com" <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
        "borntraeger@...ibm.com" <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
        "christoffer.dall@...aro.org" <christoffer.dall@...aro.org>,
        "Marc.Zyngier@....com" <Marc.Zyngier@....com>,
        "xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] KVM: Start populating /sys/hypervisor with KVM
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On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 11:06 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> On 17.05.19 17:41, Sironi, Filippo wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On 16. May 2019, at 15:50, Graf, Alexander <graf@...zon.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 14.05.19 08:16, Filippo Sironi wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Start populating /sys/hypervisor with KVM entries when we're running on
> > > > KVM. This is to replicate functionality that's available when we're
> > > > running on Xen.
> > > > 
> > > > Start with /sys/hypervisor/uuid, which users prefer over
> > > > /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/product_uuid as a way to recognize a virtual
> > > > machine, since it's also available when running on Xen HVM and on Xen PV
> > > > and, on top of that doesn't require root privileges by default.
> > > > Let's create arch-specific hooks so that different architectures can
> > > > provide different implementations.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Filippo Sironi <sironi@...zon.de>
> > > I think this needs something akin to
> > > 
> > >   https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/ABI/stable/sysfs-hypervisor-xen
> > > 
> > > to document which files are available.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ---
> > > > v2:
> > > > * move the retrieval of the VM UUID out of uuid_show and into
> > > >   kvm_para_get_uuid, which is a weak function that can be overwritten
> > > > 
> > > > drivers/Kconfig              |  2 ++
> > > > drivers/Makefile             |  2 ++
> > > > drivers/kvm/Kconfig          | 14 ++++++++++++++
> > > > drivers/kvm/Makefile         |  1 +
> > > > drivers/kvm/sys-hypervisor.c | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > 5 files changed, 49 insertions(+)
> > > > create mode 100644 drivers/kvm/Kconfig
> > > > create mode 100644 drivers/kvm/Makefile
> > > > create mode 100644 drivers/kvm/sys-hypervisor.c
> > > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > +
> > > > +__weak const char *kvm_para_get_uuid(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	return NULL;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static ssize_t uuid_show(struct kobject *obj,
> > > > +			 struct kobj_attribute *attr,
> > > > +			 char *buf)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	const char *uuid = kvm_para_get_uuid();
> > > > +	return sprintf(buf, "%s\n", uuid);
> > > The usual return value for the Xen /sys/hypervisor interface is
> > > "<denied>". Wouldn't it make sense to follow that pattern for the KVM
> > > one too? Currently, if we can not determine the UUID this will just
> > > return (null).
> > > 
> > > Otherwise, looks good to me. Are you aware of any other files we should
> > > provide? Also, is there any reason not to implement ARM as well while at it?
> > > 
> > > Alex
> > This originated from a customer request that was using /sys/hypervisor/uuid.
> > My guess is that we would want to expose "type" and "version" moving
> > forward and that's when we hypervisor hooks will be useful on top
> > of arch hooks.
> > 
> > On a different note, any idea how to check whether the OS is running
> > virtualized on KVM on ARM and ARM64?  kvm_para_available() isn't an
> 
> 
> Yeah, ARM doesn't have any KVM PV FWIW. I also can't find any explicit 
> hint passed into guests that we are indeed running in KVM. The closest 
> thing I can see is the SMBIOS product identifier in QEMU which gets 
> patched to "KVM Virtual Machine". Maybe we'll have to do with that for 
> the sake of backwards compatibility ...

How about "psci_ops.conduit" (PSCI_CONDUIT_HVC vs PSCI_CONDUIT_SMC)?

> 
> 
> > 
> > option and the same is true for S390 where kvm_para_available()
> > always returns true and it would even if a KVM enabled kernel would
> > be running on bare metal.
> 
> 
> For s390, you can figure the topology out using the sthyi instruction. 
> I'm not sure if there is a nice in-kernel API to leverage that though. 
> In fact, kvm_para_available() probably should check sthyi output to 
> determine whether we really can use it, no? Christian?
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I think we will need another arch hook to call a function that says
> > whether the OS is running virtualized on KVM.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static struct kobj_attribute uuid = __ATTR_RO(uuid);
> > > > +
> > > > +static int __init uuid_init(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	if (!kvm_para_available())
> > > > +		return 0;
> > > > +	return sysfs_create_file(hypervisor_kobj, &uuid.attr);
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +device_initcall(uuid_init);



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