linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 7/9] x86/unwind/orc: Fall back to using frame pointers for generated code

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Message-ID: <20190614132615.qsbnvvnidba7cl55@treble>
Date:   Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:31:34 -0500
From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        bpf@...r.kernel.org, Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>,
        Kairui Song <kasong@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] x86/unwind/orc: Fall back to using frame pointers
 for generated code

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 09:41:37AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:00:09PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> 
> > There is something wrong with
> > commit d15d356887e7 ("perf/x86: Make perf callchains work without CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER")
> 
> It assumes we can always unwind stack, which is, imo, not a weird thing.
> 
> > If I simply revert it and have CONFIG_UNWINDER_FRAME_POINTER=y
> > JITed stacks work just fine, because
> > bpf_get_stackid()->get_perf_callchain()
> > need to start unwinding before any bpf stuff.
> 
> How does stack unwinding work if we try and unwind from an interrupt
> that hits inside a BPF program? That too needs to work properly.
>
> > After that commit it needs to go through which is a bug on its own.
> > imo patch 1 doesn't really fix that issue.
> 
> This we agree on, patch 1 doesn't solve that at all. But we also should
> not loose the initial regs->ip value.
> 
> > As far as mangled rbp can we partially undo old
> > commit 177366bf7ceb ("bpf: change x86 JITed program stack layout")
> > that introduced that rbp adjustment.
> 
> > Going through bpf code is only interesting in case of panics somewhere
> > in bpf helpers. Back then we didn't even have ksym of jited code.
> 
> I disagree here, interrupts/NMIs hitting inside BPF should be able to
> reliably unwind the entire stack. Back then is irrelevant, these days we
> expect a reliable unwind.

Right.  Also, JIT code can call into C code, which could

a) try to unwind
b) call WARN()
c) hit a panic
d) get preempted by code which does any of the above
e) etc

> > Anyhow I agree that we need to make the jited frame proper,
> > but unwinding need to start before any bpf stuff.
> > That's a bigger issue.
> 
> I strongly disagree, we should be able to unwind through bpf.

-- 
Josh