linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH, RFC 13/62] x86/mm: Add hooks to allocate and free encrypted pages

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <20190614134335.GU3436@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:43:35 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>
Cc:     "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, x86@...nel.org,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Kai Huang <kai.huang@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@...el.com>,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org, keyrings@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC 13/62] x86/mm: Add hooks to allocate and free
 encrypted pages

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 04:28:36PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 01:04:58PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 11:34:09AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 05:43:33PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > 
> > > > +		lookup_page_ext(page)->keyid = keyid;
> > 
> > > > +		lookup_page_ext(page)->keyid = 0;
> > 
> > Also, perhaps paranoid; but do we want something like:
> > 
> > static inline void page_set_keyid(struct page *page, int keyid)
> > {
> > 	/* ensure nothing creeps after changing the keyid */
> > 	barrier();
> > 	WRITE_ONCE(lookup_page_ext(page)->keyid, keyid);
> > 	barrier();
> > 	/* ensure nothing creeps before changing the keyid */
> > }
> > 
> > And this is very much assuming there is no concurrency through the
> > allocator locks.
> 
> There's no concurrency for this page: it has been off the free list, but
> have not yet passed on to user. Nobody else sees the page before
> allocation is finished.
> 
> And barriers/WRITE_ONCE() looks excessive to me. It's just yet another bit
> of page's metadata and I don't see why it's has to be handled in a special
> way.
> 
> Does it relax your paranoia? :P

Not really, it all 'works' because clflush_cache_range() includes mb()
and page_address() has an address dependency on the store, and there are
no other sites that will ever change 'keyid', which is all kind of
fragile.

At the very least that should be explicitly called out in a comment.