linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 12/14] doc-rst: add ABI documentation to the admin-guide book

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Date:   Mon, 17 Jun 2019 15:36:17 +0300
From:   Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:     Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...pensource.com>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...radead.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/14] doc-rst: add ABI documentation to the admin-guide book

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org> wrote:
> Em Fri, 14 Jun 2019 16:06:03 +0200
> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> escreveu:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 04:42:20PM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
>> > 2) Have the python extension read the ABI files directly, without an
>> >    extra pipeline.  
>> 
>> He who writes the script, get's to dictate the language of the script :)

The point is, it's an extension to a python based tool, written in perl,
using pipes for communication, and losing any advantages of integrating
with the tool it's extending.

I doubt you'd want to see system() to be used to subsequently extend the
perl tool.

I think it's just sad to see the documentation system slowly drift
further away from the ideals we had, and towards the old ways we worked
so hard to fix.

> No idea about how much time it would take if written in python,
> but this perl script is really fast:
>
> 	$ time ./scripts/get_abi.pl search voltage_max >/dev/null
> 	real	0m0,139s
> 	user	0m0,132s
> 	sys	0m0,006s
>
> That's the time it takes here (SSD disks) to read all files under
> Documentation/ABI, parse them and seek for a string.
>
> That's about half of the time a python script takes to just import the
> the sphinx modules and print its version, running at the same machine:
>
> 	$ time sphinx-build --version >/dev/null
>
> 	real	0m0,224s
> 	user	0m0,199s
> 	sys	0m0,024s

Please at least use fair and sensible comparisons. If you want to make
the extension usable standalone on the command-line, bypassing Sphinx,
you can do that. No need to factor in Sphinx to your comparisons.


BR,
Jani.


-- 
Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center