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Date:   Thu, 20 Jun 2019 08:17:33 +0200
From:   Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Amadeusz Sławiński 
        <amadeuszx.slawinski@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@...el.com>,
        alsa-devel@...a-project.org, Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jie Yang <yang.jie@...ux.intel.com>,
        Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v2 09/11] ASoC: Intel: hdac_hdmi: Set ops to
 NULL on remove


>>>>> Could you please give a bit more context on what error you see
>>>>> when this happens?
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I get Oops. This is what happens with all other patches in this
>>>> series and only this one reverted:
>>>>
>>>> root@APL:~# rmmod snd_soc_sst_bxt_rt298
>>>> root@APL:~# rmmod snd_soc_hdac_hdmi
>>>> root@APL:~# rmmod snd_soc_skl
>>>
>>> Thanks, Amadeusz. I think the order in which the drivers are
>>> removed
>>> is what's causing the oops in your case. With SOF, the order we
>>> remove is
>>>
>>> 1. rmmod sof_pci_dev
>>> 2. rmmod snd_soc_sst_bxt_rt298
>>> 3. rmmod snd_soc_hdac_hdmi
>>>
>>
>> Well, there is nothing enforcing the order in which modules can be
>> unloaded (and I see no reason to force it), as you can see from
>> following excerpt, you can either start unloading from
>> snd_soc_sst_bxt_rt298 or snd_soc_skl, and yes if you start from
>> snd_soc_skl, there is no problem.

there is a fundamental dependency that you are ignoring: the module 
snd_soc_sst_bxt_rt298 is a machine driver which will be probed when 
snd_soc_skl creates a platform_device.
Sure you can remove modules in a different order, but that's a bit of an 
artificial/academic exercise isn't it?

>>
> I am good with this patch. I just wanted to understand why we werent
> seeing this error with SOF. Sure, there's nothing enforcing the order
> in which modules are unloaded  but there must be a logical order for
> testing purposes.
> 
> Pierre, can you please comment on it. I vaguely remember discussing
> this with you last year.

Our tests remove the modules by taking care of dependencies and it's 
already unveiled dozens of issues.
We could add a sequence similar to Amadeusz and unbind the modules which 
are loaded with the creation of a platform_device (machine driver, 
dmic), I am just not sure how of useful this would be.

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