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Date:   Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:37:14 +0900
From:   Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>
To:     "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@...rulasolutions.com>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Daniel Lustig <dlustig@...dia.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Jade Alglave <j.alglave@....ac.uk>,
        Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@...ia.fr>,
        Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] tools: memory-model: Improve data-race detection

Hi Paul and Alan,

On 2019/06/22 8:54, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 10:25:23AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Andrea Parri wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 11:55:58AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
>>>> Herbert Xu recently reported a problem concerning RCU and compiler
>>>> barriers.  In the course of discussing the problem, he put forth a
>>>> litmus test which illustrated a serious defect in the Linux Kernel
>>>> Memory Model's data-race-detection code.

I was not involved in the mail thread and wondering what the litmus test
looked like. Some searching of the archive has suggested that Alan presented
a properly formatted test based on Herbert's idea in [1].

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1906041026570.1731-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org/

If this is the case, adding the link (or message id) in the change
log would help people see the circumstances, I suppose.
Paul, can you amend the change log?

I ran herd7 on said litmus test at both "lkmm" and "dev" of -rcu and
confirmed that this patch fixes the result.

So,

Tested-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>

        Thanks, Akira

>>>>
>>>> The defect was that the LKMM assumed visibility and executes-before
>>>> ordering of plain accesses had to be mediated by marked accesses.  In
>>>> Herbert's litmus test this wasn't so, and the LKMM claimed the litmus
>>>> test was allowed and contained a data race although neither is true.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, plain accesses can be ordered by fences even in the absence
>>>> of marked accesses.  In most cases this doesn't matter, because most
>>>> fences only order accesses within a single thread.  But the rcu-fence
>>>> relation is different; it can order (and induce visibility between)
>>>> accesses in different threads -- events which otherwise might be
>>>> concurrent.  This makes it relevant to data-race detection.
>>>>
>>>> This patch makes two changes to the memory model to incorporate the
>>>> new insight:
>>>>
>>>> 	If a store is separated by a fence from another access,
>>>> 	the store is necessarily visible to the other access (as
>>>> 	reflected in the ww-vis and wr-vis relations).  Similarly,
>>>> 	if a load is separated by a fence from another access then
>>>> 	the load necessarily executes before the other access (as
>>>> 	reflected in the rw-xbstar relation).
>>>>
>>>> 	If a store is separated by a strong fence from a marked access
>>>> 	then it is necessarily visible to any access that executes
>>>> 	after the marked access (as reflected in the ww-vis and wr-vis
>>>> 	relations).
>>>>
>>>> With these changes, the LKMM gives the desired result for Herbert's
>>>> litmus test and other related ones.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
>>>> Reported-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
>>>
>>> For the entire series:
>>>
>>> Acked-by: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@...rulasolutions.com>
>>>
>>> Two nits, but up to Paul AFAIAC:
>>>
>>>  - This is a first time for "tools: memory-model:" in Subject; we were
>>>    kind of converging to "tools/memory-model:"...
>>
>> Yeah, sure.  That's the sort of detail I have a hard time remembering.
>>
>>>  - The report preceded the patch; we might as well reflect this in the
>>>    order of the tags.
>>
>> Either way is okay with me.
> 
> I applied Andrea's acks and edited as called out above, thank you both!
> 
> 						Thanx, Paul
> 

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