Message-Id: <1561386717.20436.0@crapouillou.net>
Date:   Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:57 +0200
From:   Paul Cercueil <paul@...pouillou.net>
To:     Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@...aro.org>
Cc:     Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>,
        Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>,
        Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@...il.com>,
        Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
        Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@...sung.com>,
        od@...c.me, linux-pwm@...r.kernel.org,
        dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, linux-fbdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] backlight: pwm_bl: Set pin to sleep state when powered
 down



Le lun. 24 juin 2019 à 13:28, Daniel Thompson 
<daniel.thompson@...aro.org> a écrit :
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 03:56:08PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>  On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 01:41:45PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
>>  > On 22/05/2019 17:34, Paul Cercueil wrote:
>>  > > When the driver probes, the PWM pin is automatically configured 
>> to its
>>  > > default state, which should be the "pwm" function.
>>  >
>>  > At which point in the probe... and by who?
>> 
>>  The driver core will select the "default" state of a device right 
>> before
>>  calling the driver's probe, see:
>> 
>>  	drivers/base/pinctrl.c: pinctrl_bind_pins()
>> 
>>  which is called from:
>> 
>>  	drivers/base/dd.c: really_probe()
>> 
> 
> Thanks. I assumed it would be something like that... although given
> pwm-backlight is essentially a wrapper driver round a PWM I wondered 
> why
> the pinctrl was on the backlight node (rather than the PWM node).
> 
> Looking at the DTs in the upstream kernel it looks like ~20% of the
> backlight drivers have pinctrl on the backlight node. Others 
> presumable
> have none or have it on the PWM node (and it looks like support for
> sleeping the pins is *very* rare amoung the PWM drivers).

If your PWM driver has more than one channel and has the pinctrl node, 
you
cannot fine-tune the state of individual pins. They all share the same 
state.

>>  > > However, at this
>>  > > point we don't know the actual level of the pin, which may be 
>> active or
>>  > > inactive. As a result, if the driver probes without enabling the
>>  > > backlight, the PWM pin might be active, and the backlight would 
>> be
>>  > > lit way before being officially enabled.
>>  > >
>>  > > To work around this, if the probe function doesn't enable the 
>> backlight,
>>  > > the pin is set to its sleep state instead of the default one, 
>> until the
>>  > > backlight is enabled. Whenk the backlight is disabled, the pin 
>> is reset
>>  > > to its sleep state.
>>  > Doesn't this workaround result in a backlight flash between 
>> whatever enables
>>  > it and the new code turning it off again?
>> 
>>  Yeah, I think it would. I guess if you're very careful on how you 
>> set up
>>  the device tree you might be able to work around it. Besides the 
>> default
>>  and idle standard pinctrl states, there's also the "init" state. The
>>  core will select that instead of the default state if available. 
>> However
>>  there's also pinctrl_init_done() which will try again to switch to 
>> the
>>  default state after probe has finished and the driver didn't switch 
>> away
>>  from the init state.
>> 
>>  So you could presumably set up the device tree such that you have 
>> three
>>  states defined: "default" would be the one where the PWM pin is 
>> active,
>>  "idle" would be used when backlight is off (PWM pin inactive) and 
>> then
>>  another "init" state that would be the same as "idle" to be used 
>> during
>>  probe. During probe the driver could then switch to the "idle" 
>> state so
>>  that the pin shouldn't glitch.
>> 
>>  I'm not sure this would actually work because I think the way that
>>  pinctrl handles states both "init" and "idle" would be the same 
>> pointer
>>  values and therefore pinctrl_init_done() would think the driver 
>> didn't
>>  change away from the "init" state because it is the same pointer 
>> value
>>  as the "idle" state that the driver selected. One way to work around
>>  that would be to duplicate the "idle" state definition and 
>> associate one
>>  instance of it with the "idle" state and the other with the "init"
>>  state. At that point both states should be different (different 
>> pointer
>>  values) and we'd get the init state selected automatically before 
>> probe,
>>  select "idle" during probe and then the core will leave it alone. 
>> That's
>>  of course ugly because we duplicate the pinctrl state in DT, but 
>> perhaps
>>  it's the least ugly solution.
>>  Adding Linus for visibility. Perhaps he can share some insight.
> 
> To be honest I'm happy to summarize in my head as "if it flashes then 
> it's not
> a pwm_bl.c's problem" ;-).

It does not flash. But the backlight lits way too early, so we have a 
1-2 seconds
of "white screen" before the panel driver starts.

-Paul

> 
> Daniel.
> 
> 
>> 
>>  On that note, I'm wondering if perhaps it'd make sense for pinctrl 
>> to
>>  support some mode where a device would start out in idle mode. That 
>> is,
>>  where pinctrl_bind_pins() would select the "idle" mode as the 
>> default
>>  before probe. With something like that we could easily support this
>>  use-case without glitching.
>> 
>>  I suppose yet another variant would be for the PWM backlight to not 
>> use
>>  any of the standard pinctrl states at all. Instead it could just 
>> define
>>  custom states, say "active" and "inactive". Looking at the code that
>>  would prevent pinctrl_bind_pins() from doing anything with pinctrl
>>  states and given the driver exact control over when each of the 
>> states
>>  will be selected. That's somewhat suboptimal because we can't make 
>> use
>>  of the pinctrl PM helpers and it'd require more boilerplate.
>> 
>>  Thierry
>> 
>>  > > Signed-off-by: Paul Cercueil <paul@...pouillou.net> > ---
>>  > >   drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 9 +++++++++
>>  > >   1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>  > >
>>  > > diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c 
>> b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
>>  > > index fb45f866b923..422f7903b382 100644
>>  > > --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
>>  > > +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
>>  > > @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
>>  > >   #include <linux/module.h>
>>  > >   #include <linux/kernel.h>
>>  > >   #include <linux/init.h>
>>  > > +#include <linux/pinctrl/consumer.h>
>>  > >   #include <linux/platform_device.h>
>>  > >   #include <linux/fb.h>
>>  > >   #include <linux/backlight.h>
>>  > > @@ -50,6 +51,8 @@ static void pwm_backlight_power_on(struct 
>> pwm_bl_data *pb)
>>  > >   	struct pwm_state state;
>>  > >   	int err;
>>  > > +	pinctrl_pm_select_default_state(pb->dev);
>>  > > +
>>  > >   	pwm_get_state(pb->pwm, &state);
>>  > >   	if (pb->enabled)
>>  > >   		return;
>>  > > @@ -90,6 +93,8 @@ static void pwm_backlight_power_off(struct 
>> pwm_bl_data *pb)
>>  > >   	regulator_disable(pb->power_supply);
>>  > >   	pb->enabled = false;
>>  > > +
>>  > > +	pinctrl_pm_select_sleep_state(pb->dev);
>>  > >   }
>>  > >   static int compute_duty_cycle(struct pwm_bl_data *pb, int 
>> brightness)
>>  > > @@ -626,6 +631,10 @@ static int pwm_backlight_probe(struct 
>> platform_device *pdev)
>>  > >   	backlight_update_status(bl);
>>  > >   	platform_set_drvdata(pdev, bl);
>>  > > +
>>  > > +	if (bl->props.power == FB_BLANK_POWERDOWN)
>>  > > +		pinctrl_pm_select_sleep_state(&pdev->dev);
>>  >
>>  > Didn't backlight_update_status(bl) already do this?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Daniel.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > > +
>>  > >   	return 0;
>>  > >   err_alloc:
>>  > >
>>  >
> 
> 

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