lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:35:57 +1000
From:   Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
To:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc:     "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@...cle.com>,
        Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@....com>,
        Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@...hat.com>,
        linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] iomap: add tracing for the address space operations

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:15:15PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 09:49:21AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > +#undef TRACE_SYSTEM
> > > +#define TRACE_SYSTEM iomap
> > 
> > Can you add a comment somewhere here that says these tracepoints are
> > volatile and we reserve the right to change them at any time so they
> > don't form any sort of persistent UAPI that we have to maintain?
> 
> Sure.  Note that we don't have any such comment in xfs either..

Yes, but that is buries inside the xfs code where we largely set our
own rules. This, however, is generic code where people have a habit
of arguing that tracepoints are stable API and they can never be
changed because some random userspace application may have hard
coded a dependency on it...

Hence we need to be explicit here that this is diagnostic/debug code
and anyone who tries to rely on it as a stable API gets to keep all
the broken bits to themselves.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@...morbit.com

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ