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Date:   Thu, 27 Jun 2019 19:58:17 +0900
From:   Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>
To:     Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>
Cc:     Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>,
        Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/11] tracing: of: Boot time tracing using
 devicetree

Hi Rob,

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:58:50 -0600
Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 10:18 AM Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here is an RFC series of patches to add boot-time tracing using
> > devicetree.
> >
> > Currently, kernel support boot-time tracing using kernel command-line
> > parameters. But that is very limited because of limited expressions
> > and limited length of command line. Recently, useful features like
> > histogram, synthetic events, etc. are being added to ftrace, but it is
> > clear that we can not expand command-line options to support these
> > features.
> >
> > Hoever, I've found that there is a devicetree which can pass more
> > structured commands to kernel at boot time :) The devicetree is usually
> > used for dscribing hardware configuration, but I think we can expand it
> > for software configuration too (e.g. AOSP and OPTEE already introduced
> > firmware node.) Also, grub and qemu already supports loading devicetree,
> > so we can use it not only on embedded devices but also on x86 PC too.
> 
> Do the x86 versions of grub, qemu, EFI, any other bootloader actually
> enable DT support? I didn't think so. Certainly, an x86 kernel doesn't
> normally (other than OLPC and ce4100) have a defined way to even pass
> a dtb from the bootloader to the kernel and the kernel doesn't
> unflatten the dtb.

Sorry, the grub part, I just found this entry. I need to check this
can work on x86 too.

https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/devicetree.html

Anyway, I've tested this series on qemu-x86 with --dtb option.
The kernel boot with ACPI and DT (hardware drivers seem initialized
by ACPI), and it seems unflatten the dtb correctly.

> 
> For arm64, the bootloader to kernel interface is DT even for ACPI
> based systems. So unlike Frank, I'm not completely against DT being
> the interface, but it's hardly universal across architectures and
> something like this should be. Neither making DT the universal kernel
> boot interface nor creating some new channel as Frank suggested seems
> like an easy task.

I don't want it making this for all architectures but an option for
architecutres which supports DT already...

Thank you,


> 
> Rob


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>

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