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Date:   Mon, 8 Jul 2019 19:32:50 +0000
From:   "Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@....com>
To:     Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
CC:     "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Pu Wen <puwen@...on.cn>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86: Remove X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC

On 7/4/19 10:46 AM, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> AMD and Intel both have serializing lfence (X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC).
> They've both had it for a long time, and AMD has had it enabled in Linux
> since Spectre v1 was announced.
> 
> Back then, there was a proposal to remove the serializing mfence feature
> bit (X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC), since both AMD and Intel have
> serializing lfence.  At the time, it was (ahem) speculated that some
> hypervisors might not yet support its removal, so it remained for the
> time being.
> 
> Now a year-and-a-half later, it should be safe to remove.

I vaguely remember a concern from a migration point of view, maybe? Adding
Paolo to see if he has any concerns.

Thanks,
Tom

> 
> I asked Andrew Cooper about whether it's still needed:
> 
>   So if you're virtualised, you've got no choice in the matter.  lfence
>   is either dispatch-serialising or not on AMD, and you won't be able to
>   change it.
> 
>   Furthermore, you can't accurately tell what state the bit is in, because
>   the MSR might not be virtualised at all, or may not reflect the true
>   state in hardware.  Worse still, attempting to set the bit may not be
>   successful even if there isn't a fault for doing so.
> 
>   Xen sets the DE_CFG bit unconditionally, as does Linux by the looks of
>   things (see MSR_F10H_DECFG_LFENCE_SERIALIZE_BIT).  ISTR other hypervisor
>   vendors saying the same, but I don't have any information to hand.
> 
>   If you are running under a hypervisor which has been updated, then
>   lfence will almost certainly be dispatch-serialising in practice, and
>   you'll almost certainly see the bit already set in DE_CFG.  If you're
>   running under a hypervisor which hasn't been patched since Spectre,
>   you've already lost in many more ways.
> 
>   I'd argue that X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC is not worth keeping.
> 
> So remove it.  This will reduce some code rot, and also make it easier
> to hook barrier_nospec() up to a cmdline disable for performance
> raisins, without having to need an alternative_3() macro.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
> Cc: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
> Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com>
> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
> Cc: Pu Wen <puwen@...on.cn>
> Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
> ---
>  arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h           |  3 +--
>  arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h       |  1 -
>  arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h               |  3 +--
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/amd.c                | 21 +++------------------
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/hygon.c              | 21 +++------------------
>  tools/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h |  1 -
>  6 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 42 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 84f848c2541a..7f828fe49797 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -49,8 +49,7 @@ static inline unsigned long array_index_mask_nospec(unsigned long index,
>  #define array_index_mask_nospec array_index_mask_nospec
>  
>  /* Prevent speculative execution past this barrier. */
> -#define barrier_nospec() alternative_2("", "mfence", X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC, \
> -					   "lfence", X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC)
> +#define barrier_nospec() alternative("", "lfence", X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC)
>  
>  #define dma_rmb()	barrier()
>  #define dma_wmb()	barrier()
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> index 998c2cc08363..9b98edb6b2d3 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> @@ -96,7 +96,6 @@
>  #define X86_FEATURE_SYSCALL32		( 3*32+14) /* "" syscall in IA32 userspace */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_SYSENTER32		( 3*32+15) /* "" sysenter in IA32 userspace */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD		( 3*32+16) /* REP microcode works well */
> -#define X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC	( 3*32+17) /* "" MFENCE synchronizes RDTSC */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC	( 3*32+18) /* "" LFENCE synchronizes RDTSC */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_ACC_POWER		( 3*32+19) /* AMD Accumulated Power Mechanism */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_NOPL		( 3*32+20) /* The NOPL (0F 1F) instructions */
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h
> index 5cc3930cb465..86f20d520a07 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h
> @@ -233,8 +233,7 @@ static __always_inline unsigned long long rdtsc_ordered(void)
>  	 * Thus, use the preferred barrier on the respective CPU, aiming for
>  	 * RDTSCP as the default.
>  	 */
> -	asm volatile(ALTERNATIVE_3("rdtsc",
> -				   "mfence; rdtsc", X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC,
> +	asm volatile(ALTERNATIVE_2("rdtsc",
>  				   "lfence; rdtsc", X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC,
>  				   "rdtscp", X86_FEATURE_RDTSCP)
>  			: EAX_EDX_RET(val, low, high)
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/amd.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/amd.c
> index 8d4e50428b68..3afe07d602dd 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/amd.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/amd.c
> @@ -879,12 +879,8 @@ static void init_amd(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  	init_amd_cacheinfo(c);
>  
>  	if (cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_XMM2)) {
> -		unsigned long long val;
> -		int ret;
> -
>  		/*
> -		 * A serializing LFENCE has less overhead than MFENCE, so
> -		 * use it for execution serialization.  On families which
> +		 * Use LFENCE for execution serialization.  On families which
>  		 * don't have that MSR, LFENCE is already serializing.
>  		 * msr_set_bit() uses the safe accessors, too, even if the MSR
>  		 * is not present.
> @@ -892,19 +888,8 @@ static void init_amd(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  		msr_set_bit(MSR_F10H_DECFG,
>  			    MSR_F10H_DECFG_LFENCE_SERIALIZE_BIT);
>  
> -		/*
> -		 * Verify that the MSR write was successful (could be running
> -		 * under a hypervisor) and only then assume that LFENCE is
> -		 * serializing.
> -		 */
> -		ret = rdmsrl_safe(MSR_F10H_DECFG, &val);
> -		if (!ret && (val & MSR_F10H_DECFG_LFENCE_SERIALIZE)) {
> -			/* A serializing LFENCE stops RDTSC speculation */
> -			set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC);
> -		} else {
> -			/* MFENCE stops RDTSC speculation */
> -			set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC);
> -		}
> +		/* A serializing LFENCE stops RDTSC speculation */
> +		set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC);
>  	}
>  
>  	/*
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/hygon.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/hygon.c
> index 415621ddb8a2..4e28c1fc8749 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/hygon.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/hygon.c
> @@ -330,12 +330,8 @@ static void init_hygon(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  	init_hygon_cacheinfo(c);
>  
>  	if (cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_XMM2)) {
> -		unsigned long long val;
> -		int ret;
> -
>  		/*
> -		 * A serializing LFENCE has less overhead than MFENCE, so
> -		 * use it for execution serialization.  On families which
> +		 * Use LFENCE for execution serialization.  On families which
>  		 * don't have that MSR, LFENCE is already serializing.
>  		 * msr_set_bit() uses the safe accessors, too, even if the MSR
>  		 * is not present.
> @@ -343,19 +339,8 @@ static void init_hygon(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
>  		msr_set_bit(MSR_F10H_DECFG,
>  			    MSR_F10H_DECFG_LFENCE_SERIALIZE_BIT);
>  
> -		/*
> -		 * Verify that the MSR write was successful (could be running
> -		 * under a hypervisor) and only then assume that LFENCE is
> -		 * serializing.
> -		 */
> -		ret = rdmsrl_safe(MSR_F10H_DECFG, &val);
> -		if (!ret && (val & MSR_F10H_DECFG_LFENCE_SERIALIZE)) {
> -			/* A serializing LFENCE stops RDTSC speculation */
> -			set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC);
> -		} else {
> -			/* MFENCE stops RDTSC speculation */
> -			set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC);
> -		}
> +		/* A serializing LFENCE stops RDTSC speculation */
> +		set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC);
>  	}
>  
>  	/*
> diff --git a/tools/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h b/tools/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> index 75f27ee2c263..4cebefd007f1 100644
> --- a/tools/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> +++ b/tools/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> @@ -96,7 +96,6 @@
>  #define X86_FEATURE_SYSCALL32		( 3*32+14) /* "" syscall in IA32 userspace */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_SYSENTER32		( 3*32+15) /* "" sysenter in IA32 userspace */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD		( 3*32+16) /* REP microcode works well */
> -#define X86_FEATURE_MFENCE_RDTSC	( 3*32+17) /* "" MFENCE synchronizes RDTSC */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC	( 3*32+18) /* "" LFENCE synchronizes RDTSC */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_ACC_POWER		( 3*32+19) /* AMD Accumulated Power Mechanism */
>  #define X86_FEATURE_NOPL		( 3*32+20) /* The NOPL (0F 1F) instructions */
> 

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