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Date:   Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:40:53 -0700
From:   Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
To:     Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>
Cc:     Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
        <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        David Collins <collinsd@...eaurora.org>,
        Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@...roid.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] of/platform: Add functional dependency link from
 DT bindings

Replying again because the previous email accidentally included HTML.

Thanks for taking the time to reconsider the wording Frank. Your
intention was clear to me in the first email too.

A kernel command line option can also completely disable this
functionality easily and cleanly. Can we pick that as an option? I've
an implementation of that in the v5 series I sent out last week.

-Saravana

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:39 AM Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/15/19 7:26 AM, Frank Rowand wrote:
> > HiRob,
> >
> > Sorry for such a late reply...
> >
> >
> > On 7/1/19 8:25 PM, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:32 PM Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:48 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Add device-links after the devices are created (but before they are
> >>>> probed) by looking at common DT bindings like clocks and
> >>>> interconnects.
> >>>>
> >>>> Automatically adding device-links for functional dependencies at the
> >>>> framework level provides the following benefits:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Optimizes device probe order and avoids the useless work of
> >>>>   attempting probes of devices that will not probe successfully
> >>>>   (because their suppliers aren't present or haven't probed yet).
> >>>>
> >>>>   For example, in a commonly available mobile SoC, registering just
> >>>>   one consumer device's driver at an initcall level earlier than the
> >>>>   supplier device's driver causes 11 failed probe attempts before the
> >>>>   consumer device probes successfully. This was with a kernel with all
> >>>>   the drivers statically compiled in. This problem gets a lot worse if
> >>>>   all the drivers are loaded as modules without direct symbol
> >>>>   dependencies.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Supplier devices like clock providers, interconnect providers, etc
> >>>>   need to keep the resources they provide active and at a particular
> >>>>   state(s) during boot up even if their current set of consumers don't
> >>>>   request the resource to be active. This is because the rest of the
> >>>>   consumers might not have probed yet and turning off the resource
> >>>>   before all the consumers have probed could lead to a hang or
> >>>>   undesired user experience.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Some frameworks (Eg: regulator) handle this today by turning off
> >>>>   "unused" resources at late_initcall_sync and hoping all the devices
> >>>>   have probed by then. This is not a valid assumption for systems with
> >>>>   loadable modules. Other frameworks (Eg: clock) just don't handle
> >>>>   this due to the lack of a clear signal for when they can turn off
> >>>>   resources. This leads to downstream hacks to handle cases like this
> >>>>   that can easily be solved in the upstream kernel.
> >>>>
> >>>>   By linking devices before they are probed, we give suppliers a clear
> >>>>   count of the number of dependent consumers. Once all of the
> >>>>   consumers are active, the suppliers can turn off the unused
> >>>>   resources without making assumptions about the number of consumers.
> >>>>
> >>>> By default we just add device-links to track "driver presence" (probe
> >>>> succeeded) of the supplier device. If any other functionality provided
> >>>> by device-links are needed, it is left to the consumer/supplier
> >>>> devices to change the link when they probe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  drivers/of/Kconfig    |  9 ++++++++
> >>>>  drivers/of/platform.c | 52 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>  2 files changed, 61 insertions(+)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/of/Kconfig b/drivers/of/Kconfig
> >>>> index 37c2ccbefecd..7c7fa7394b4c 100644
> >>>> --- a/drivers/of/Kconfig
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/of/Kconfig
> >>>> @@ -103,4 +103,13 @@ config OF_OVERLAY
> >>>>  config OF_NUMA
> >>>>         bool
> >>>>
> >>>> +config OF_DEVLINKS
> >>>
> >>> I'd prefer this not be a config option. After all, we want one kernel
> >>> build that works for all platforms.
> >>
> >> We need a lot more changes before one kernel build can work for all
> >> platforms. At least until then, I think we need this. Lot less chance
> >> of breaking existing platforms before all the missing pieces are
> >> created.
> >>
> >>> A kernel command line option to disable might be useful for debugging.
> >>
> >> Or we can have a command line to enable this for platforms that want
> >> to use it and have it default off.
> >
>
> > Given the fragility of the current boot sequence (without this patch set)
> > and the potential breakage of existing systems, I think that if we choose
> > to accept this patch set that it should first bake in the -next tree for
> > at least one major release cycle.  Maybe even two major release cycles.
>
> I probably didn't state that very well.  I was trying to not sound like
> I was accusing this patch series of being fragile.  The issue is that
> adding the patches to systems that weren't expecting the new ordering
> may cause boot problems for some systems.  I'm not concerned with
> pointing fingers, just want to make sure that we proceed cautiously
> until we know that the resulting system is robust.
>
> -Frank
>
> >
> > -Frank
> >
> >
> >>
> >>>> +       bool "Device links from DT bindings"
> >>>> +       help
> >>>> +         Common DT bindings like clocks, interconnects, etc represent a
> >>>> +         consumer device's dependency on suppliers devices. This option
> >>>> +         creates device links from these common bindings so that consumers are
> >>>> +         probed only after all their suppliers are active and suppliers can
> >>>> +         tell when all their consumers are active.
> >>>> +
> >>>>  endif # OF
> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/of/platform.c b/drivers/of/platform.c
> >>>> index 04ad312fd85b..a53717168aca 100644
> >>>> --- a/drivers/of/platform.c
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/of/platform.c
> >>>> @@ -61,6 +61,57 @@ struct platform_device *of_find_device_by_node(struct device_node *np)
> >>>>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(of_find_device_by_node);
> >>>>
> >>>>  #ifdef CONFIG_OF_ADDRESS
> >>>> +static int of_link_binding(struct device *dev, char *binding, char *cell)
> >>>
> >>> Under CONFIG_OF_ADDRESS seems like a strange location.
> >>
> >> Yeah, but the rest of the file seems to be under this. So I'm not
> >> touching that. I can probably move this function further down (close
> >> to platform populate) if you want that.
> >>>
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +       struct of_phandle_args sup_args;
> >>>> +       struct platform_device *sup_dev;
> >>>> +       unsigned int i = 0, links = 0;
> >>>> +       u32 dl_flags = DL_FLAG_AUTOPROBE_CONSUMER;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       while (!of_parse_phandle_with_args(dev->of_node, binding, cell, i,
> >>>> +                                          &sup_args)) {
> >>>> +               i++;
> >>>> +               sup_dev = of_find_device_by_node(sup_args.np);
> >>>> +               if (!sup_dev)
> >>>> +                       continue;
> >>>> +               if (device_link_add(dev, &sup_dev->dev, dl_flags))
> >>>> +                       links++;
> >>>> +               put_device(&sup_dev->dev);
> >>>> +       }
> >>>> +       if (links < i)
> >>>> +               return -ENODEV;
> >>>> +       return 0;
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>> +/*
> >>>> + * List of bindings and their cell names (use NULL if no cell names) from which
> >>>> + * device links need to be created.
> >>>> + */
> >>>> +static char *link_bindings[] = {
> >>>
> >>> const
> >>
> >> Ack
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_OF_DEVLINKS
> >>>> +       "clocks", "#clock-cells",
> >>>> +       "interconnects", "#interconnect-cells",
> >>>
> >>> Planning to add others?
> >>
> >> Not in this patch.
> >>
> >> Regulators are the other big missing piece that I'm aware of now but
> >> they need a lot of discussion (see email from David and my reply).
> >>
> >> Not sure what other resources are shared where they can be "turned
> >> off" and cause devices set up at boot to fail. For example, I don't
> >> think interrupts need functional dependency tracking because they
> >> aren't really turned off by consumer 1 in a way that breaks things for
> >> consumer 2. Just masked and the consumer 2 can unmask and use it once
> >> it probes.
> >>
> >> I'm only intimately familiar with clocks, interconnects and regulators
> >> (to some extent). I'm open to adding other supplier categories in
> >> future patches as I educate myself of those or if other people want to
> >> add support for more categories.
> >>
> >> -Saravana
> >>
> >>>> +#endif
> >>>> +};
> >>>> +
> >>>> +static int of_link_to_suppliers(struct device *dev)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +       unsigned int i = 0;
> >>>> +       bool done = true;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       if (unlikely(!dev->of_node))
> >>>> +               return 0;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(link_bindings) / 2; i++)
> >>>> +               if (of_link_binding(dev, link_bindings[i * 2],
> >>>> +                                       link_bindings[i * 2 + 1]))
> >>>> +                       done = false;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       if (!done)
> >>>> +               return -ENODEV;
> >>>> +       return 0;
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>>  /*
> >>>>   * The following routines scan a subtree and registers a device for
> >>>>   * each applicable node.
> >>>> @@ -524,6 +575,7 @@ static int __init of_platform_default_populate_init(void)
> >>>>         if (!of_have_populated_dt())
> >>>>                 return -ENODEV;
> >>>>
> >>>> +       platform_bus_type.add_links = of_link_to_suppliers;
> >>>>         /*
> >>>>          * Handle certain compatibles explicitly, since we don't want to create
> >>>>          * platform_devices for every node in /reserved-memory with a
> >>>> --
> >>>> 2.22.0.410.gd8fdbe21b5-goog
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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