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Date:   Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:17:01 -0400
From:   Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools: memory-model: add it to the Documentation body

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 12:37:54PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:14:53 +0000
> Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org> escreveu:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 04:01:37PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > The books at tools/memory-model/Documentation are very well
> > > formatted. Congrats to the ones that wrote them!
> > > 
> > > The manual conversion to ReST is really trivial:
> > > 
> > > 	- Add document titles;
> > > 	- change the bullets on some lists;
> > > 	- mark code blocks.  
> > 
> > Thanks so much, some feedback:
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org>  
> > 
> > (1)
> > I could not find the table of contents appear in the HTML output for this.
> > Basically this list in the beginning doesn't render:
> >   1. INTRODUCTION
> >   2. BACKGROUND
> >   3. A SIMPLE EXAMPLE
> >   4. A SELECTION OF MEMORY MODELS
> >   5. ORDERING AND CYCLES
> 
> Yes. It is written as a comment, like:
> 
> 	.. foo  This is a comment block
> 
> 	   Everything on this block
> 
> 	   won't be parsed.
> 
> So it won't be parsed, but having a TOC like this isn't need, as
> Sphinx generates it automatically via "toctree" markup. 

Ok.

> > Could we add a proper TOC with sections? My motivation for ReST here would be
> > to make the sections jumpable since it is a large document.
> 
> Just change the toctree depth at index.rst to 2 and you'll see an index
> produced by Sphinx with both levels 1 (doc name) and level 2 (chapters):
> 
> 	.. toctree::
> 	   :maxdepth: 2

Admittedly, I don't have much time at the moment to do these experiments :(

> > Also could we make the different sections appear as a tree in the left
> > sidebar?
> 
> The sidebar follows the maxdepth too.
> 
> > 
> > (2) Arguably several function names in the document HTML output should appear
> > in monospace fonting and/or referring to the documentation for real function
> > names, but these can be fixed as we go, I guess.
> 
> If you want monospaced fonts, just use: ``monospaced_symbol_foo`` within
> any paragraph, or place the monospaced data inside a code-block:
> 
> 	::
> 
> 		This will be monospaced.
> 
> > 
> > (3) Things like smp_load_acquire() and spin_lock() should probably refer to
> > the documentation for those elsewhere..
> 
> Jon added an automarkup extension on Kernel 5.2. So, all functions that
> are defined elsewhere will automatically generate an hyperlink. For that to
> happen, you need to add the kernel-doc markup at the *.h or *.c file where
> the function is declared and use the kernel-doc markup somewhere within the
> Kernel Documentation/.
> 
> > 
> > (4) I would argue that every occurence of
> > A ->(some dependency) B should be replaced with fixed size font in the HTML
> > results.
> 
> Just place those with ``A -> (some dependency)``. This will make them use
> a fixed size font.

Ok, understood all these. I guess my point was all of these will need to be
done to make this document useful from a ReST conversion standpoint. Until
then it is probably just better off being plain text - since there are so
many of those ``A -> (dep) B`` things.

> > Arguably it is better IMO if the whole document is fixed size font in the
> > HTML output because so many things need to be fixed size, but that my just be
> > my opinion.
> 
> Just my 2 cents here, but having the entire document using a fixed size
> font makes it more boring to read. Having just the symbols with a fixed size
> is a common convention used on technical books, and helps to make easier
> to identify the symbols while reading the docs.
> 
> That's said, Sphinx doesn't have any tag to switch the font for the entire
> document. All it can be done is to define a CSS and apply it for the
> doc - or to place everything within a code-block, with will suppress all
> markup tags, including cross-references for functions.

Ok, got it.

> The problem with CSS is that you need to write both an html CSS file
> and add LaTeX macros associated to this "CSS style" (technically, LaTeX
> doesn't have a CSS concept, but Sphinx emulates it).

Yeah I don't think we want to do CSS here. So the correct thing to do would
be to place all fixed-width things within double backticks, if someone had
the time to do it. I am currently spending time understanding the document's
content itself..

thanks for the effort, it could probably serve as a good future reference,

 - Joel

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