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Message-ID: <b27614151184f29bb147786933cb424fddb82a23.camel@redhat.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 17:35:11 -0400
From: Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com>
To: Karol Herbst <kherbst@...hat.com>, Lukas Wunner <lukas@...ner.de>
Cc: nouveau <nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
Linux PCI <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
Daniel Drake <drake@...lessm.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
Aaron Plattner <aplattner@...dia.com>,
Peter Wu <peter@...ensteyn.nl>,
Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@...m.mit.edu>,
Maik Freudenberg <hhfeuer@....de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "PCI: Enable NVIDIA HDA controllers"
On Wed, 2019-07-31 at 23:26 +0200, Karol Herbst wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:18 PM Lukas Wunner <lukas@...ner.de> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 04:19:27PM -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > > While this fixes audio for a number of users, this commit has the
> > > sideaffect of breaking the BIOS workaround that's required to make the
> > > GPU on the nvidia P50 work, by causing the GPU's PCI device function to
> > > stop working after it's been set to multifunction mode.
> >
> > This is missing a reference to the commit introducing the P50 quirk,
> > which is e0547c81bfcf ("PCI: Reset Lenovo ThinkPad P50 nvgpu at boot
> > if necessary").
> >
> > Please describe in more detail how the GPU's PCI function stops working.
> > Does it respond with "all ones" when accessing MMIO?
> > Do MMIO accesses cause the system to hang?
> >
> > Could you provide lspci -vvxx output for the GPU and its associated
> > HDA controller with and without b516ea586d71?
> >
> > Does this machine have external display connectors via which audio
> > can be streamed?
> >
> >
> > > I'm not really holding my breath on this patch to being accepted:
> > > there's a good chance there's a better solution for this (and I'm going
> > > to continue investigating for one after sending this patch), this is
> > > more just to start a conversation on what the proper way to fix this is.
> >
> > Posting as an RFC might have been more appropriate then.
> >
>
> no, a revert is actually appropriate. If a commit fixes something,
> but breaks something else, it gets either reverted or fixed. If nobody
> fixes it, then revert it is.
To answer Lukas's question btw: most of the details on how things break are
back in the original commit (sorry for forgetting the reference!), there's a
_lot_ of explanation there that I'd rather not retype, so just refer back to
the commit and bug @ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75985
Additionally, there was some extra discussion providing some more detail in
the email thread that I had with Bjorn:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/2/12/1172
As for how this commit breaks the workaround: it seems that when we enable the
HDA controller and put the GPU into multifunction mode, the function-level
reset stops working and thus we can't reset the GPU anymore. Currently I can
see a couple of solutions (again, please feel free to suggest more!):
* Just revert the commit. We should do this if necessary, but of course I'd
much rather try finding a fix first
* Disable the HDA controller temporarily when a GPU reset is neded in
quirk_reset_lenovo_thinkpad_p50_nvgpu(), then call the function level
reset, then re-enable the HDA controller. I have no idea if this actually
works yet, but I'm about to try this on my system
* Get quirk_reset_lenovo_thinkpad_p50_nvgpu() to run before
quirk_nvidia_hda(). This would probably be fine, but we would need to
rework some stuff in the PCI subsystem (maybe it already has a way to do
this? haven't checked yet) so that we could perform an flr probe early
enough to perform the quirk
>
> > > So, I'm kind of confused about why exactly this was implemented as an
> > > early boot quirk in the first place. If we're seeing the GPU's PCI
> > > device, we already know the GPU is there. Shouldn't we be able to check
> > > for the existence of the HDA device once we probe the GPU in nouveau?
> >
> > I think a motivation to keep this generic was to make it work with
> > other drivers besides nouveau, specifically Nvidia's proprietary driver.
> > nouveau might not even be enabled.
> >
> >
> > > that still doesn't explain why this was implemented as an early quirk
> >
> > This isn't an early quirk. Those live in arch/x86/kernel/early-quirks.c.
> > This is just a PCI quirk executed on device enumeration and on resume.
> > Devices aren't necessarily enumerated only on boot, e.g. think
> > Thunderbolt.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lukas
--
Cheers,
Lyude Paul
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