linux-kernel - Re: [PATCHv5 28/37] x86/vdso: Enable static branches for the timens vdso

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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1908010841500.1788@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
Date:   Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:48:10 +0200 (CEST)
From:   Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
cc:     Dmitry Safonov <dima@...sta.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 28/37] x86/vdso: Enable static branches for the timens
 vdso

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:58 PM Dmitry Safonov <dima@...sta.com> wrote:
> > As it has been discussed on timens RFC, adding a new conditional branch
> > `if (inside_time_ns)` on VDSO for all processes is undesirable.
> >
> > Addressing those problems, there are two versions of VDSO's .so:
> > for host tasks (without any penalty) and for processes inside of time
> > namespace with clk_to_ns() that subtracts offsets from host's time.
> >
> > The timens code in vdso looks like this:
> >
> > if (timens_static_branch_unlikely()) {
> >        clk_to_ns(clk, ts);
> > }
> 
> I'm confused.  Now we effectively have *three* versions: the vDSO
> without timens, and vDSO with timens but with it switched off, and the
> vDSO with timens on.  This seems like too much.

The problem is that if you have a single VDSO, then omce one process joins
a time namespace _ALL_ other processes get an extra conditional with at
least one extra  cache line as a bonus.

This has been discussed at Plumbers last year and the agreement was to
create VDSO plain (no namespace support) and VDSO extra (namespace
support).

The performance hit of the conditional + one etra cache line for tasks
which do not use a time name space is measurable.

That also avoids the whole mess of dealing with the static branch being
flipped. The time name space property is determined on fork/exec _before_
anything can touch the VDSO and depending on it the approriate version of
the VDSO is loaded.

Thanks,

	tglx