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Message-ID: <20190807114633.GA1557@ziepe.ca>
Date:   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:46:33 -0300
From:   Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
To:     "Koenig, Christian" <Christian.Koenig@....com>
Cc:     Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@...il.com>,
        "Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@....com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@....com>,
        Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@...dia.com>,
        "amd-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org" <amd-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        "nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org" <nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org" <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>,
        Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/15] amdgpu: remove CONFIG_DRM_AMDGPU_USERPTR

On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 06:57:24AM +0000, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 06.08.19 um 22:03 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> > On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 02:58:58PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:51 PM Kuehling, Felix <Felix.Kuehling@....com> wrote:
> >>> On 2019-08-06 13:44, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 07:05:53PM +0300, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >>>>> The option is just used to select HMM mirror support and has a very
> >>>>> confusing help text.  Just pull in the HMM mirror code by default
> >>>>> instead.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
> >>>>>    drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig                 |  2 ++
> >>>>>    drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/Kconfig      | 10 ----------
> >>>>>    drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c |  6 ------
> >>>>>    drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.h | 12 ------------
> >>>>>    4 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
> >>>> Felix, was this an effort to avoid the arch restriction on hmm or
> >>>> something? Also can't see why this was like this.
> >>> This option predates KFD's support of userptrs, which in turn predates
> >>> HMM. Radeon has the same kind of option, though it doesn't affect HMM in
> >>> that case.
> >>>
> >>> Alex, Christian, can you think of a good reason to maintain userptr
> >>> support as an option in amdgpu? I suspect it was originally meant as a
> >>> way to allow kernels with amdgpu without MMU notifiers. Now it would
> >>> allow a kernel with amdgpu without HMM or MMU notifiers. I don't know if
> >>> this is a useful thing to have.
> >> Right.  There were people that didn't have MMU notifiers that wanted
> >> support for the GPU.
> > ?? Is that even a real thing? mmu_notifier does not have much kconfig
> > dependency.
> 
> Yes, that used to be a very real thing.
> 
> Initially a lot of users didn't wanted mmu notifiers to be enabled 
> because of the performance overhead they costs.

Seems strange to hear these days, every distro ships with it on, it is
needed for kvm.

> Then we had the problem that HMM mirror wasn't available on a lot of 
> architectures.

Some patches for hmm are ready now that will fix this

Jason

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