Message-ID: <20190813141808.GF2527@valkosipuli.retiisi.org.uk>
Date:   Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:18:08 +0300
From:   Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@....fi>
To:     Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@...aro.org>
Cc:     mchehab@...nel.org, robh+dt@...nel.org,
        linux-media@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        c.barrett@...mos.com, a.brela@...mos.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] dt-bindings: media: i2c: Add IMX290 CMOS sensor
 binding

Hi Mani,

On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 07:22:09PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 03:22:12PM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > Hi Manivannan,
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 05:44:00PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > Hi Sakari,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 02:46:43PM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > Hi Manivannan,
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 05:03:58PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > > Hi Sakari,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the review!
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:45:26PM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Manivannan,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 06:39:36PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > > > > Add devicetree binding for IMX290 CMOS image sensor.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@...aro.org>
> > > > > > > Reviewed-by: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >  .../devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/imx290.txt  | 51 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > >  1 file changed, 51 insertions(+)
> > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/imx290.txt
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/imx290.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/imx290.txt
> > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > index 000000000000..7535b5b5b24b
> > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/imx290.txt
> > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,51 @@
> > > > > > > +* Sony IMX290 1/2.8-Inch CMOS Image Sensor
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +The Sony IMX290 is a 1/2.8-Inch CMOS Solid-state image sensor with
> > > > > > > +Square Pixel for Color Cameras. It is programmable through I2C and 4-wire
> > > > > > > +interfaces. The sensor output is available via CMOS logic parallel SDR output,
> > > > > > > +Low voltage LVDS DDR output and CSI-2 serial data output.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If there are three to choose from, then you should specify which one is in
> > > > > > use. Given that I think chances remain slim we'd add support for the other
> > > > > > two (it's certainly not ruled out though), CSI-2 could be the default. But
> > > > > > this needs to be documented.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm... I'm not sure here. Bindings should describe the hardware and not the
> > > > > limitations of the driver. Here as you said, the sensor can output frames
> > > > > in 3 different modes/formats but the driver only supports CSI2. I can add a
> > > > > note in the driver but not sure whether dt-binding is the right place or not!
> > > > 
> > > > I guess alternatively you could document the necessary bindings for the
> > > > other two busses.
> > > > 
> > > > But what I'm saying here is that it's highly unlikely they'll be ever
> > > > needed, and it'd be mostly a waste of time to implement that. (That said, I
> > > > have nothing against the use of these busses, but I've never seen anyone
> > > > using them.) Many other devices use defaults for more contentious settings.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Agree with you but my question was, whether I could document the supported
> > > mode in bindings or not! I have seen comments from Rob in the past that the
> > > binding should not document the limitations of the driver. But anyway, one
> > > can infer from the current binding that only CSI2 is supported for now, it's
> > > just stating it explicitly makes me doubtful!
> > 
> > I think it could be e.g.:
> > 
> > The CSI-2 bus is the default. No bindings have been defined for the other
> > busses.
> > 
> 
> Ack.
> 
> > ...
> > 
> > > > > > I suppose you can't change the lane order, so clock-lanes is redundant
> > > > > > (don't use it in the example) and data-lanes should be monotonically
> > > > > > incrementing series from 1 to 4.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We can change the order and the example here illustrates how it has been
> > > > > wired in FRAMOS module. If I change the lane order like you said, it won't
> > > > > work.
> > > > 
> > > > I highly doubt that. Neither the driver nor the sensor uses the lane
> > > > ordering information.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Agree but CSI2 host will need this informtion, right? Please correct me if
> > > I'm wrong!
> > 
> > The CSI-2 receiver may need that configuration, but it's not addressed by a
> > sensor's binding documentation (it's configured in the endpoint on the
> > receiver's side).
> > 
> 
> Yes but I thought that documenting the sensor lane configuration based on one
> example implementation might help interfacing w/ different hosts. Anyway, to be
> host agnostic, I can drop the clock lane and make data lane start from 1 as you
> suggested.

You could well have a different configuration from the default in an
example. But my point is that this is simply the wrong place for
configuring the lane mapping on the host.

-- 
Sakari Ailus

Powered by blists - more mailing lists