linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v8 15/27] mm: Handle shadow stack page fault

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Message-ID: <a47dd0338ff37ebaa7888f291d05a5fccf1cb44b.camel@intel.com>
Date:   Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:00:27 -0700
From:   Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com>
To:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Cc:     X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Balbir Singh <bsingharora@...il.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Eugene Syromiatnikov <esyr@...hat.com>,
        Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>,
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        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
        "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@...el.com>,
        Vedvyas Shanbhogue <vedvyas.shanbhogue@...el.com>,
        Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 15/27] mm: Handle shadow stack page fault

On Wed, 2019-08-14 at 09:48 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 8/14/19 9:27 AM, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> > On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 15:55 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 2:02 PM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com> wrote:
> > > > When a task does fork(), its shadow stack (SHSTK) must be duplicated
> > > > for the child.  This patch implements a flow similar to copy-on-write
> > > > of an anonymous page, but for SHSTK.
> > > > 
> > > > A SHSTK PTE must be RO and dirty.  This dirty bit requirement is used
> > > > to effect the copying.  In copy_one_pte(), clear the dirty bit from a
> > > > SHSTK PTE to cause a page fault upon the next SHSTK access.  At that
> > > > time, fix the PTE and copy/re-use the page.
> > > 
> > > Is using VM_SHSTK and special-casing all of this really better than
> > > using a special mapping or other pseudo-file-backed VMA and putting
> > > all the magic in the vm_operations?
> > 
> > A special mapping is cleaner.  However, we also need to exclude normal [RO +
> > dirty] pages from shadow stack.
> 
> I don't understand what you are saying.
> 
> Are you saying that we need this VM_SHSTK flag in order to exclude
> RO+HW-Dirty pages from being created in non-shadow-stack VMAs?

We use VM_SHSTK for page fault handling (the special-casing).  If we have a
special mapping, all these become cleaner (but more code).  However, we still
need most of the PTE macros (e.g. ptep_set_wrprotect, PAGE_DIRTY_SW, etc.).

Yu-cheng