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Date:   Sat, 17 Aug 2019 02:55:32 +0300
From:   Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Alexander Steffen <Alexander.Steffen@...ineon.com>
Cc:     Stephen Boyd <swboyd@...omium.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>,
        Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@....de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org,
        Andrey Pronin <apronin@...omium.org>,
        Duncan Laurie <dlaurie@...omium.org>,
        Guenter Roeck <groeck@...omium.org>,
        Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] hwrng: core: Freeze khwrng thread during suspend

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 05:56:12PM +0200, Alexander Steffen wrote:
> > Andrey talked to me a little about this today. Andrey would prefer we
> > don't just let the TPM go into a wonky state if it's used during
> > suspend/resume so that it can stay resilient to errors. Sounds OK to me,
> > but my point still stands that we need to fix the callers.
> > 
> > I'll resurrect the IS_SUSPENDED flag and make it set generically by the
> > tpm_pm_suspend() and tpm_pm_resume() functions and then spit out a big
> > WARN_ON() and return an error value like -EAGAIN if the TPM functions
> > are called when the TPM is suspended. I hope we don't hit the warning
> > message, but if we do then at least we can track it down rather quickly
> > and figure out how to fix the caller instead of just silently returning
> > -EAGAIN and hoping for that to be visible to the user.
> 
> There is another use case I see for this functionality: There are ways for
> user space to upgrade the TPM's firmware via /dev/tpm0 (using e.g.
> TPM2_FieldUpgradeStart/TPM2_FieldUpgradeData). While upgrading, the normal
> TPM functionality might not be available (commands return TPM_RC_UPGRADE or
> other error codes). Even after the upgrade is finished, the TPM might
> continue to refuse command execution (e.g. with TPM_RC_REBOOT).
> 
> I'm not sure whether all in-kernel users are prepared to deal correctly with
> those error codes. But even if they are, it might be better to block them
> from sending commands in the first place, to not interfere with the upgrade
> process.
> 
> What would you think about a way for a user space upgrade tool to also set
> this flag, to make the TPM unavailable for everything but the upgrade
> process?
> 
> Alexander

NOTE: Just commenting the FW use case.

I don't like it because it contains variable amount of reserved time
for a hardware resource.

Right now a user thread gets a lease of one TPM command for /dev/tpm0
and that is how I would like to keep it.

/Jarkko

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