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Date:   Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:00:00 -0700
From:   Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
To:     "Ong, Boon Leong" <boon.leong.ong@...el.com>,
        Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc:     "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@...il.com>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jose Abreu <joabreu@...opsys.com>,
        "Voon, Weifeng" <weifeng.voon@...el.com>,
        Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 net-next] net: phy: mdio_bus: make mdiobus_scan also
 cover PHY that only talks C45

On 8/28/19 8:41 AM, Ong, Boon Leong wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:23:34PM +0000, Voon, Weifeng wrote:
>>>>>> Make mdiobus_scan() to try harder to look for any PHY that only
>>>> talks C45.
>>>>> If you are not using Device Tree or ACPI, and you are letting the MDIO
>>>>> bus be scanned, it sounds like there should be a way for you to
>>>>> provide a hint as to which addresses should be scanned (that's
>>>>> mii_bus::phy_mask) and possibly enhance that with a mask of possible
>>>>> C45 devices?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, i don't like this unconditional c45 scanning. A lot of MDIO bus
>>>> drivers don't look for the MII_ADDR_C45. They are going to do a C22
>>>> transfer, and maybe not mask out the MII_ADDR_C45 from reg, causing an
>>>> invalid register write. Bad things can then happen.
>>>>
>>>> With DT and ACPI, we have an explicit indication that C45 should be used,
>>>> so we know on this platform C45 is safe to use. We need something
>>>> similar when not using DT or ACPI.
>>>>
>>>> 	  Andrew
>>>
>>> Florian and Andrew,
>>> The mdio c22 is using the start-of-frame ST=01 while mdio c45 is using ST=00
>>> as identifier. So mdio c22 device will not response to mdio c45 protocol.
>>> As in IEEE 802.1ae-2002 Annex 45A.3 mention that:
>>> " Even though the Clause 45 MDIO frames using the ST=00 frame code
>>> will also be driven on to the Clause 22 MII Management interface,
>>> the Clause 22 PHYs will ignore the frames. "
>>>
>>> Hence, I am not seeing any concern that the c45 scanning will mess up with
>>> c22 devices.
>>
>> Hi Voon
>>
>> Take for example mdio-hisi-femac.c
>>
>> static int hisi_femac_mdio_read(struct mii_bus *bus, int mii_id, int regnum)
>> {
>>        struct hisi_femac_mdio_data *data = bus->priv;
>>        int ret;
>>
>>        ret = hisi_femac_mdio_wait_ready(data);
>>        if (ret)
>>                return ret;
>>
>>        writel((mii_id << BIT_PHY_ADDR_OFFSET) | regnum,
>>               data->membase + MDIO_RWCTRL);
>>
>>
>> There is no check here for MII_ADDR_C45. So it will perform a C22
>> transfer. And regnum will still have MII_ADDR_C45 in it, so the
>> writel() is going to set bit 30, since #define MII_ADDR_C45
>> (1<<30). What happens on this hardware under these conditions?
>>
>> You cannot unconditionally ask an MDIO driver to do a C45
>> transfer. Some drivers are going to do bad things.
> 
> Andrew & Florian, thanks for your review on this patch and insights on it.
> We will look into the implementation as suggested as follow. 
> 
> - for each bit clear in mii_bus::phy_mask, scan it as C22
> - for each bit clear in mii_bus::phy_c45_mask, scan it as C45
> 
> We will work on this and resubmit soonest. 

Sounds good. If you do not need to scan the MDIO bus, another approach
is to call get_phy_device() by passing the is_c45 boolean to true in
order to connect directly to a C45 device for which you already know the
address.

Assuming this is done for the stmmac PCI changes that you have
submitted, and that those cards have a fixed set of addresses for their
PHYs, maybe scanning the bus is overkill?
-- 
Florian

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