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Date:   Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:24:09 +0800
From:   Gao Xiang <gaoxiang25@...wei.com>
To:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
CC:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        <devel@...verdev.osuosl.org>, <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sasha Levin <alexander.levin@...rosoft.com>,
        Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks@...edu>,
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <yuchao0@...wei.com>,
        <miaoxie@...wei.com>, "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>,
        Zefan Li <lizefan@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] staging: exfat: add exfat filesystem code to staging

Hi Christoph,

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 03:01:49PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> Hi Christoph,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:23:40PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Can we please just review the damn thing and get it into the proper
> > tree?  That whole concept of staging file systems just has been one
> > fricking disaster, including Greg just moving not fully reviewed ones
> > over like erofs just because he feels like it.  I'm getting sick and
> > tired of this scheme.
> 
> I just want to a word on EROFS stuff (I'm not suitable to comment
> on the current exfat implementation). Since EROFS stuff has been
> in staging tree for more than a year, anyone who wants to review
> it can review this filesystem at any time.
> 
> EROFS is not just a homebrew or experimental fs for now, it has been
> widely used for many commerical smartphones, and we will upstream it
> to AOSP for more Android smartphones after it gets merged to upstream.
> I personally cc-ed you for a month, and I didn't get any objection
> from others (including Linus) for about 2 months. That isn't because
> of someone likes it, rather we cannot make no progress compared with
> some exist fs community because this is our love work.
> 
> And it's self-contained driver at least, and it's disabled by default,
> It cannot be stayed in staging tree to do a lot of EROFS feature
> improvements itself forever (since it is cleaned enough).
> It has proven its validity as well.

It seems I misunderstood your idea, sorry about that... EROFS
properly uses vfs interfaces (e.g. we also considered RCU symlink
lookup path at the very beginning of our design as Al said [1],
except for mount interface as Al mentioned [2] (thanks him for
taking some time on it), it was used for our debugging use),
and it didn't cause any extra burden to vfs or other subsystems.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20190325045744.GK2217@ZenIV.linux.org.uk/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20190720224955.GD17978@ZenIV.linux.org.uk/

Thanks,
Gao Xiang

> 
> Thanks,
> Gao Xiang
> 

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