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Message-ID: <b91820c4-2fe2-55ee-5089-5f7c94322521@redhat.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:15:05 +0800
From: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@...el.com>, mst@...hat.com,
alex.williamson@...hat.com, maxime.coquelin@...hat.com
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
dan.daly@...el.com, cunming.liang@...el.com,
zhihong.wang@...el.com, lingshan.zhu@...el.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v3] vhost: introduce mdev based hardware vhost backend
On 2019/8/28 下午1:37, Tiwei Bie wrote:
> Details about this can be found here:
>
> https://lwn.net/Articles/750770/
>
> What's new in this version
> ==========================
>
> There are three choices based on the discussion [1] in RFC v2:
>
>> #1. We expose a VFIO device, so we can reuse the VFIO container/group
>> based DMA API and potentially reuse a lot of VFIO code in QEMU.
>>
>> But in this case, we have two choices for the VFIO device interface
>> (i.e. the interface on top of VFIO device fd):
>>
>> A) we may invent a new vhost protocol (as demonstrated by the code
>> in this RFC) on VFIO device fd to make it work in VFIO's way,
>> i.e. regions and irqs.
>>
>> B) Or as you proposed, instead of inventing a new vhost protocol,
>> we can reuse most existing vhost ioctls on the VFIO device fd
>> directly. There should be no conflicts between the VFIO ioctls
>> (type is 0x3B) and VHOST ioctls (type is 0xAF) currently.
>>
>> #2. Instead of exposing a VFIO device, we may expose a VHOST device.
>> And we will introduce a new mdev driver vhost-mdev to do this.
>> It would be natural to reuse the existing kernel vhost interface
>> (ioctls) on it as much as possible. But we will need to invent
>> some APIs for DMA programming (reusing VHOST_SET_MEM_TABLE is a
>> choice, but it's too heavy and doesn't support vIOMMU by itself).
> This version is more like a quick PoC to try Jason's proposal on
> reusing vhost ioctls. And the second way (#1/B) in above three
> choices was chosen in this version to demonstrate the idea quickly.
>
> Now the userspace API looks like this:
>
> - VFIO's container/group based IOMMU API is used to do the
> DMA programming.
>
> - Vhost's existing ioctls are used to setup the device.
>
> And the device will report device_api as "vfio-vhost".
>
> Note that, there are dirty hacks in this version. If we decide to
> go this way, some refactoring in vhost.c/vhost.h may be needed.
>
> PS. The direct mapping of the notify registers isn't implemented
> in this version.
>
> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/7/9/101
Thanks for the patch, see comments inline.
>
> Signed-off-by: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@...el.com>
> ---
> drivers/vhost/Kconfig | 9 +
> drivers/vhost/Makefile | 3 +
> drivers/vhost/mdev.c | 382 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> include/linux/vhost_mdev.h | 58 ++++++
> include/uapi/linux/vfio.h | 2 +
> include/uapi/linux/vhost.h | 8 +
> 6 files changed, 462 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 drivers/vhost/mdev.c
> create mode 100644 include/linux/vhost_mdev.h
>
> diff --git a/drivers/vhost/Kconfig b/drivers/vhost/Kconfig
> index 3d03ccbd1adc..2ba54fcf43b7 100644
> --- a/drivers/vhost/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/vhost/Kconfig
> @@ -34,6 +34,15 @@ config VHOST_VSOCK
> To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called
> vhost_vsock.
>
> +config VHOST_MDEV
> + tristate "Hardware vhost accelerator abstraction"
> + depends on EVENTFD && VFIO && VFIO_MDEV
> + select VHOST
> + default n
> + ---help---
> + Say Y here to enable the vhost_mdev module
> + for use with hardware vhost accelerators
> +
> config VHOST
> tristate
> ---help---
> diff --git a/drivers/vhost/Makefile b/drivers/vhost/Makefile
> index 6c6df24f770c..ad9c0f8c6d8c 100644
> --- a/drivers/vhost/Makefile
> +++ b/drivers/vhost/Makefile
> @@ -10,4 +10,7 @@ vhost_vsock-y := vsock.o
>
> obj-$(CONFIG_VHOST_RING) += vringh.o
>
> +obj-$(CONFIG_VHOST_MDEV) += vhost_mdev.o
> +vhost_mdev-y := mdev.o
> +
> obj-$(CONFIG_VHOST) += vhost.o
> diff --git a/drivers/vhost/mdev.c b/drivers/vhost/mdev.c
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..6bef1d9ae2e6
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/drivers/vhost/mdev.c
> @@ -0,0 +1,382 @@
> +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> +/*
> + * Copyright (C) 2018-2019 Intel Corporation.
> + */
> +
> +#include <linux/module.h>
> +#include <linux/kernel.h>
> +#include <linux/vfio.h>
> +#include <linux/vhost.h>
> +#include <linux/mdev.h>
> +#include <linux/vhost_mdev.h>
> +
> +#include "vhost.h"
> +
> +struct vhost_mdev {
> + struct vhost_dev dev;
> + bool opened;
> + int nvqs;
> + u64 state;
> + u64 acked_features;
> + u64 features;
> + const struct vhost_mdev_device_ops *ops;
> + struct mdev_device *mdev;
> + void *private;
> + struct vhost_virtqueue vqs[];
> +};
> +
> +static void handle_vq_kick(struct vhost_work *work)
> +{
> + struct vhost_virtqueue *vq = container_of(work, struct vhost_virtqueue,
> + poll.work);
> + struct vhost_mdev *vdpa = container_of(vq->dev, struct vhost_mdev, dev);
> +
> + vdpa->ops->notify(vdpa, vq - vdpa->vqs);
> +}
> +
> +static int vhost_set_state(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, u64 __user *statep)
> +{
> + u64 state;
> +
> + if (copy_from_user(&state, statep, sizeof(state)))
> + return -EFAULT;
> +
> + if (state >= VHOST_MDEV_S_MAX)
> + return -EINVAL;
> +
> + if (vdpa->state == state)
> + return 0;
> +
> + mutex_lock(&vdpa->dev.mutex);
> +
> + vdpa->state = state;
> +
> + switch (vdpa->state) {
> + case VHOST_MDEV_S_RUNNING:
> + vdpa->ops->start(vdpa);
> + break;
> + case VHOST_MDEV_S_STOPPED:
> + vdpa->ops->stop(vdpa);
> + break;
> + }
> +
> + mutex_unlock(&vdpa->dev.mutex);
> +
> + return 0;
> +}
> +
> +static int vhost_set_features(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, u64 __user *featurep)
> +{
> + u64 features;
> +
> + if (copy_from_user(&features, featurep, sizeof(features)))
> + return -EFAULT;
> +
> + if (features & ~vdpa->features)
> + return -EINVAL;
> +
> + vdpa->acked_features = features;
> + vdpa->ops->features_changed(vdpa);
> + return 0;
> +}
> +
> +static int vhost_get_features(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, u64 __user *featurep)
> +{
> + if (copy_to_user(featurep, &vdpa->features, sizeof(vdpa->features)))
> + return -EFAULT;
> + return 0;
> +}
> +
> +static int vhost_get_vring_base(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, void __user *argp)
> +{
> + struct vhost_virtqueue *vq;
> + u32 idx;
> + int r;
> +
> + r = get_user(idx, (u32 __user *)argp);
> + if (r < 0)
> + return r;
> +
> + vq = &vdpa->vqs[idx];
> + vq->last_avail_idx = vdpa->ops->get_vring_base(vdpa, idx);
> +
> + return vhost_vring_ioctl(&vdpa->dev, VHOST_GET_VRING_BASE, argp);
> +}
> +
> +/*
> + * Helpers for backend to register mdev.
> + */
> +
> +struct vhost_mdev *vhost_mdev_alloc(struct mdev_device *mdev, void *private,
> + int nvqs)
> +{
> + struct vhost_mdev *vdpa;
> + struct vhost_dev *dev;
> + struct vhost_virtqueue **vqs;
> + size_t size;
> + int i;
> +
> + size = sizeof(struct vhost_mdev) + nvqs * sizeof(struct vhost_virtqueue);
> +
> + vdpa = kzalloc(size, GFP_KERNEL);
> + if (!vdpa)
> + return NULL;
> +
> + vdpa->nvqs = nvqs;
> +
> + vqs = kmalloc_array(nvqs, sizeof(*vqs), GFP_KERNEL);
> + if (!vqs) {
> + kfree(vdpa);
> + return NULL;
> + }
> +
> + dev = &vdpa->dev;
> + for (i = 0; i < nvqs; i++) {
> + vqs[i] = &vdpa->vqs[i];
> + vqs[i]->handle_kick = handle_vq_kick;
> + }
> + vhost_dev_init(dev, vqs, nvqs, 0, 0, 0);
> +
> + vdpa->private = private;
> + vdpa->mdev = mdev;
> +
> + mdev_set_drvdata(mdev, vdpa);
> +
> + return vdpa;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_alloc);
> +
> +void vhost_mdev_free(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa)
> +{
> + struct mdev_device *mdev;
> +
> + mdev = vdpa->mdev;
> + mdev_set_drvdata(mdev, NULL);
> +
> + vhost_dev_stop(&vdpa->dev);
> + vhost_dev_cleanup(&vdpa->dev);
> + kfree(vdpa->dev.vqs);
> + kfree(vdpa);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_free);
> +
> +ssize_t vhost_mdev_read(struct mdev_device *mdev, char __user *buf,
> + size_t count, loff_t *ppos)
> +{
> + return -EINVAL;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_read);
> +
> +
> +ssize_t vhost_mdev_write(struct mdev_device *mdev, const char __user *buf,
> + size_t count, loff_t *ppos)
> +{
> + return -EINVAL;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_write);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_mmap(struct mdev_device *mdev, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> +{
> + // TODO
> + return -EINVAL;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_mmap);
> +
> +long vhost_mdev_ioctl(struct mdev_device *mdev, unsigned int cmd,
> + unsigned long arg)
> +{
> + void __user *argp = (void __user *)arg;
> + struct vhost_mdev *vdpa;
> + unsigned long minsz;
> + int ret = 0;
> +
> + if (!mdev)
> + return -EINVAL;
> +
> + vdpa = mdev_get_drvdata(mdev);
> + if (!vdpa)
> + return -ENODEV;
> +
> + switch (cmd) {
> + case VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO:
> + {
> + struct vfio_device_info info;
> +
> + minsz = offsetofend(struct vfio_device_info, num_irqs);
> +
> + if (copy_from_user(&info, (void __user *)arg, minsz)) {
> + ret = -EFAULT;
> + break;
> + }
> +
> + if (info.argsz < minsz) {
> + ret = -EINVAL;
> + break;
> + }
> +
> + info.flags = VFIO_DEVICE_FLAGS_VHOST;
> + info.num_regions = 0;
> + info.num_irqs = 0;
> +
> + if (copy_to_user((void __user *)arg, &info, minsz)) {
> + ret = -EFAULT;
> + break;
> + }
> +
> + break;
> + }
> + case VFIO_DEVICE_GET_REGION_INFO:
> + case VFIO_DEVICE_GET_IRQ_INFO:
> + case VFIO_DEVICE_SET_IRQS:
> + case VFIO_DEVICE_RESET:
> + ret = -EINVAL;
> + break;
> +
> + case VHOST_MDEV_SET_STATE:
> + ret = vhost_set_state(vdpa, argp);
> + break;
So this is used to start or stop the device. This means if userspace
want to drive a network device, the API is not 100% compatible. Any
blocker for this? E.g for SET_BACKEND, we can pass a fd and then
identify the type of backend.
Another question is, how can user know the type of a device?
> + case VHOST_GET_FEATURES:
> + ret = vhost_get_features(vdpa, argp);
> + break;
> + case VHOST_SET_FEATURES:
> + ret = vhost_set_features(vdpa, argp);
> + break;
> + case VHOST_GET_VRING_BASE:
> + ret = vhost_get_vring_base(vdpa, argp);
> + break;
> + default:
> + ret = vhost_dev_ioctl(&vdpa->dev, cmd, argp);
> + if (ret == -ENOIOCTLCMD)
> + ret = vhost_vring_ioctl(&vdpa->dev, cmd, argp);
> + }
> +
> + return ret;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_ioctl);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_open(struct mdev_device *mdev)
> +{
> + struct vhost_mdev *vdpa;
> + int ret = 0;
> +
> + vdpa = mdev_get_drvdata(mdev);
> + if (!vdpa)
> + return -ENODEV;
> +
> + mutex_lock(&vdpa->dev.mutex);
> +
> + if (vdpa->opened)
> + ret = -EBUSY;
> + else
> + vdpa->opened = true;
> +
> + mutex_unlock(&vdpa->dev.mutex);
> +
> + return ret;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_open);
> +
> +void vhost_mdev_close(struct mdev_device *mdev)
> +{
> + struct vhost_mdev *vdpa;
> +
> + vdpa = mdev_get_drvdata(mdev);
> +
> + mutex_lock(&vdpa->dev.mutex);
> +
> + vhost_dev_stop(&vdpa->dev);
> + vhost_dev_cleanup(&vdpa->dev);
> +
> + vdpa->opened = false;
> + mutex_unlock(&vdpa->dev.mutex);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_close);
> +
> +/*
> + * Helpers for backend to set/get information.
> + */
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_set_device_ops(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa,
> + const struct vhost_mdev_device_ops *ops)
> +{
> + vdpa->ops = ops;
> + return 0;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_set_device_ops);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_set_features(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, u64 features)
> +{
> + vdpa->features = features;
> + return 0;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_set_features);
> +
> +struct eventfd_ctx *
> +vhost_mdev_get_call_ctx(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id)
> +{
> + return vdpa->vqs[queue_id].call_ctx;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_call_ctx);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_get_acked_features(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, u64 *features)
> +{
> + *features = vdpa->acked_features;
> + return 0;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_acked_features);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_get_vring_num(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id, u16 *num)
> +{
> + *num = vdpa->vqs[queue_id].num;
> + return 0;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_vring_num);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_get_vring_base(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id, u16 *base)
> +{
> + *base = vdpa->vqs[queue_id].last_avail_idx;
> + return 0;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_vring_base);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_get_vring_addr(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id,
> + struct vhost_vring_addr *addr)
> +{
> + struct vhost_virtqueue *vq = &vdpa->vqs[queue_id];
> +
> + /*
> + * XXX: we need userspace to pass guest physical address or
> + * IOVA directly.
> + */
> + addr->flags = vq->log_used ? (0x1 << VHOST_VRING_F_LOG) : 0;
> + addr->desc_user_addr = (__u64)vq->desc;
> + addr->avail_user_addr = (__u64)vq->avail;
> + addr->used_user_addr = (__u64)vq->used;
> + addr->log_guest_addr = (__u64)vq->log_addr;
> + return 0;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_vring_addr);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_get_log_base(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id,
> + void **log_base, u64 *log_size)
> +{
> + // TODO
> + return 0;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_log_base);
> +
> +struct mdev_device *vhost_mdev_get_mdev(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa)
> +{
> + return vdpa->mdev;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_mdev);
> +
> +void *vhost_mdev_get_private(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa)
> +{
> + return vdpa->private;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(vhost_mdev_get_private);
> +
> +MODULE_VERSION("0.0.0");
> +MODULE_LICENSE("GPL v2");
> +MODULE_DESCRIPTION("Hardware vhost accelerator abstraction");
> diff --git a/include/linux/vhost_mdev.h b/include/linux/vhost_mdev.h
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..070787ce6b36
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/include/linux/vhost_mdev.h
> @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@
> +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> +/*
> + * Copyright (C) 2018-2019 Intel Corporation.
> + */
> +
> +#ifndef _VHOST_MDEV_H
> +#define _VHOST_MDEV_H
> +
> +struct mdev_device;
> +struct vhost_mdev;
> +
> +typedef int (*vhost_mdev_start_device_t)(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa);
> +typedef int (*vhost_mdev_stop_device_t)(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa);
> +typedef int (*vhost_mdev_set_features_t)(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa);
> +typedef void (*vhost_mdev_notify_device_t)(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id);
> +typedef u64 (*vhost_mdev_get_notify_addr_t)(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id);
> +typedef u16 (*vhost_mdev_get_vring_base_t)(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id);
> +typedef void (*vhost_mdev_features_changed_t)(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa);
> +
> +struct vhost_mdev_device_ops {
> + vhost_mdev_start_device_t start;
> + vhost_mdev_stop_device_t stop;
> + vhost_mdev_notify_device_t notify;
> + vhost_mdev_get_notify_addr_t get_notify_addr;
> + vhost_mdev_get_vring_base_t get_vring_base;
> + vhost_mdev_features_changed_t features_changed;
> +};
Consider we want to implement a network device, who is going to
implement the device configuration space? I believe it's not good to
invent another set of API for doing this. So I believe we want something
like read_config/write_config here.
Then I came up an idea:
1) introduce a new mdev bus transport, and a new mdev driver virtio_mdev
2) vDPA (either software or hardware) can register as a device of virtio
mdev device
3) then we can use kernel virtio driver to drive vDPA device and utilize
kernel networking/storage stack
4) for userspace driver like vhost-mdev, it could be built of top of
mdev transport
Having a full new transport for virtio, the advantages are obvious:
1) A generic solution for both kernel and userspace driver and support
configuration space access
2) For kernel driver, exist kernel networking/storage stack could be
reused, and so did fast path implementation (e.g XDP, io_uring etc).
2) For userspace driver, the function of virtio transport is a superset
of vhost, any API could be built on top easily (e.g vhost ioctl).
What's your thought?
Thanks
> +
> +struct vhost_mdev *vhost_mdev_alloc(struct mdev_device *mdev,
> + void *private, int nvqs);
> +void vhost_mdev_free(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa);
> +
> +ssize_t vhost_mdev_read(struct mdev_device *mdev, char __user *buf,
> + size_t count, loff_t *ppos);
> +ssize_t vhost_mdev_write(struct mdev_device *mdev, const char __user *buf,
> + size_t count, loff_t *ppos);
> +long vhost_mdev_ioctl(struct mdev_device *mdev, unsigned int cmd,
> + unsigned long arg);
> +int vhost_mdev_mmap(struct mdev_device *mdev, struct vm_area_struct *vma);
> +int vhost_mdev_open(struct mdev_device *mdev);
> +void vhost_mdev_close(struct mdev_device *mdev);
> +
> +int vhost_mdev_set_device_ops(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa,
> + const struct vhost_mdev_device_ops *ops);
> +int vhost_mdev_set_features(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, u64 features);
> +struct eventfd_ctx *vhost_mdev_get_call_ctx(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa,
> + int queue_id);
> +int vhost_mdev_get_acked_features(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, u64 *features);
> +int vhost_mdev_get_vring_num(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id, u16 *num);
> +int vhost_mdev_get_vring_base(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id, u16 *base);
> +int vhost_mdev_get_vring_addr(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id,
> + struct vhost_vring_addr *addr);
> +int vhost_mdev_get_log_base(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa, int queue_id,
> + void **log_base, u64 *log_size);
> +struct mdev_device *vhost_mdev_get_mdev(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa);
> +void *vhost_mdev_get_private(struct vhost_mdev *vdpa);
> +
> +#endif /* _VHOST_MDEV_H */
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h b/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h
> index 8f10748dac79..0300d6831cc5 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h
> @@ -201,6 +201,7 @@ struct vfio_device_info {
> #define VFIO_DEVICE_FLAGS_AMBA (1 << 3) /* vfio-amba device */
> #define VFIO_DEVICE_FLAGS_CCW (1 << 4) /* vfio-ccw device */
> #define VFIO_DEVICE_FLAGS_AP (1 << 5) /* vfio-ap device */
> +#define VFIO_DEVICE_FLAGS_VHOST (1 << 6) /* vfio-vhost device */
> __u32 num_regions; /* Max region index + 1 */
> __u32 num_irqs; /* Max IRQ index + 1 */
> };
> @@ -217,6 +218,7 @@ struct vfio_device_info {
> #define VFIO_DEVICE_API_AMBA_STRING "vfio-amba"
> #define VFIO_DEVICE_API_CCW_STRING "vfio-ccw"
> #define VFIO_DEVICE_API_AP_STRING "vfio-ap"
> +#define VFIO_DEVICE_API_VHOST_STRING "vfio-vhost"
>
> /**
> * VFIO_DEVICE_GET_REGION_INFO - _IOWR(VFIO_TYPE, VFIO_BASE + 8,
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/vhost.h b/include/uapi/linux/vhost.h
> index 40d028eed645..5afbc2f08fa3 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/linux/vhost.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/vhost.h
> @@ -116,4 +116,12 @@
> #define VHOST_VSOCK_SET_GUEST_CID _IOW(VHOST_VIRTIO, 0x60, __u64)
> #define VHOST_VSOCK_SET_RUNNING _IOW(VHOST_VIRTIO, 0x61, int)
>
> +/* VHOST_MDEV specific defines */
> +
> +#define VHOST_MDEV_SET_STATE _IOW(VHOST_VIRTIO, 0x70, __u64)
> +
> +#define VHOST_MDEV_S_STOPPED 0
> +#define VHOST_MDEV_S_RUNNING 1
> +#define VHOST_MDEV_S_MAX 2
> +
> #endif
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