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Message-ID: <1825272223.1740.1567617173011.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>
Date:   Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:12:53 -0400 (EDT)
From:   Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        paulmck <paulmck@...ux.ibm.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
        "Russell King, ARM Linux" <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...hip.com>,
        Chris Lameter <cl@...ux.com>, Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@...dex.ru>,
        Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] Fix: sched/membarrier: p->mm->membarrier_state
 racy load

----- On Sep 4, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@...radead.org wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 11:19:00AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Sep 3, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Linus Torvalds torvalds@...ux-foundation.org
>> wrote:
> 
>> > I wonder if the easiest model might be to just use a percpu variable
>> > instead for the membarrier stuff? It's not like it has to be in
>> > 'struct task_struct' at all, I think. We only care about the current
>> > runqueues, and those are percpu anyway.
>> 
>> One issue here is that membarrier iterates over all runqueues without
>> grabbing any runqueue lock. If we copy that state from mm to rq on
>> sched switch prepare, we would need to ensure we have the proper
>> memory barriers between:
>> 
>> prior user-space memory accesses  /  setting the runqueue membarrier state
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> setting the runqueue membarrier state / following user-space memory accesses
>> 
>> Copying the membarrier state into the task struct leverages the fact that
>> we have documented and guaranteed those barriers around the rq->curr update
>> in the scheduler.
> 
> Should be the same as the barriers we already rely on for rq->curr, no?
> That is, if we put this before switch_mm() then we have
> smp_mb__after_spinlock() and switch_mm() itself.

Yes, I think we can piggy-back on the already documented barriers documented around
rq->curr store.

> Also, if we place mm->membarrier_state in the same cacheline as mm->pgd
> (which switch_mm() is bound to load) then we should be fine, I think.

Yes, if we make sure membarrier_prepare_task_switch only updates the
rq->membarrier_state if prev->mm != next->mm, we should be able to avoid
loading next->mm->membarrier_state when switch_mm() is not invoked.

I'll prepare RFC patch implementing this approach.

Thanks,

Mathieu


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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