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Date:   Fri, 6 Sep 2019 01:12:26 +0900
From:   Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>
To:     Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>,
        "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>, <x86@...nel.org>,
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        "Josh Poimboeuf" <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
        "Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH -tip 0/2] x86: Prohibit kprobes on
 XEN_EMULATE_PREFIX

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 14:31:56 +0100
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com> wrote:

> >>> The KVM version was added in c/s 6c86eedc206dd1f9d37a2796faa8e6f2278215d2
> > Hmm, I think I might misunderstand what the "emulate prefix"... that is not
> > a prefix which replace actual prefix, but just works like an escape sequence.
> > Thus the next instruction can have any x86 prefix, correct?
> 
> There is a bit of history here :)
> 
> Originally, 13 years ago, Xen invented the "Force Emulate Prefix", which
> was the sequence:
> 
> ud2a; .ascii 'xen'; cpuid
> 
> which hit the #UD handler and was recognised as a request for
> virtualised CPUID information.  This was for ring-deprivileged
> virtualisation, and is needed because the CPUID instruction itself
> doesn't trap to the hypervisor.
> 
> Following some security issues in our instruction emulator, I reused
> this prefix with VT-x/SVM guests for testing purposes.  It behaves in a
> similar manner - when enabled, it is recognised in #UD exception
> intercept, and causes Xen to add 5 to the instruction pointer, then
> emulate the instruction starting there.
> 
> Then various folk thought that having the same kind of ability to test
> KVM's instruction emulator would be a good idea, so they borrowed the idea.
> 
> From a behaviour point of view, it is an opaque 5 bytes which means
> "break into the hypervisor, then emulate the following instruction".
> 
> The name "prefix" is unfortunate.  It was named thusly because from the
> programmers point of view, it was something you put before the CPUID
> instruction which wanted to be emulated.  It is not related to x86
> instruction concept of a prefix.

OK, then we should not use the insn->prefixes for those escape sequences.

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>

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