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Message-ID: <20190911120002.GQ4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
Date:   Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:00:02 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:     Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@...il.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
        Thomas Lindroth <thomas.lindroth@...il.com>,
        Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg, kmem: do not fail __GFP_NOFAIL charges

On Mon 09-09-19 13:22:45, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 06-09-19 11:24:55, Shakeel Butt wrote:
[...]
> > I wonder what has changed since
> > <http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20180525185501.82098-1-shakeelb@google.com/>.
> 
> I have completely forgot about that one. It seems that we have just
> repeated the same discussion again. This time we have a poor user who
> actually enabled the kmem limit.
> 
> I guess there was no real objection to the change back then. The primary
> discussion revolved around the fact that the accounting will stay broken
> even when this particular part was fixed. Considering this leads to easy
> to trigger crash (with the limit enabled) then I guess we should just
> make it less broken and backport to stable trees and have a serious
> discussion about discontinuing of the limit. Start by simply failing to
> set any limit in the current upstream kernels.

Any more concerns/objections to the patch? I can add a reference to your
earlier post Shakeel if you want or to credit you the way you prefer.

Also are there any objections to start deprecating process of kmem
limit? I would see it in two stages
- 1st warn in the kernel log
	pr_warn("kmem.limit_in_bytes is deprecated and will be removed.
	        "Please report your usecase to linux-mm@...ck.org if you "
		"depend on this functionality."
- 2nd fail any write to kmem.limit_in_bytes
- 3rd remove the control file completely
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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