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Date:   Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:39:09 -0600
From:   Keith Busch <kbusch@...nel.org>
To:     "Baldyga, Robert" <robert.baldyga@...el.com>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, "axboe@...com" <axboe@...com>,
        "sagi@...mberg.me" <sagi@...mberg.me>,
        "linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Rakowski, Michal" <michal.rakowski@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] nvme: Add kernel API for admin command

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 12:13:24PM +0000, Baldyga, Robert wrote:
> Ok, fair enough. We want to keep things hidden behind certain layers,
> and that's definitely a good thing. But there is a problem with these
> layers - they do not expose all the features. For example AFAIK there
> is no clear way to use 512+8 format via block layer (nor even a way 
> to get know that bdev is formatted to particular lbaf). It's impossible
> to use it without layering violations, which nobody sees as a perfect
> solution, but it is the only one that works.

I think your quickest path to supporting such a format is to consider
each part separately, then bounce and interleave/unmix the data +
metadata at another layer that understands how the data needs to be laid
out in host memory. Something like this RFC here:

  http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-nvme/2018-February/015844.html

It appears connecting to infradead lists is a bit flaky at the moment,
so not sure if you'll be able to read the above link right now.

Anyway, the RFC would have needed a bit of work to be considered, like
using a mempool for the purpose, but it does generically make such
formats usable through the block stack so maybe try flushing out that
idea.

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