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Message-ID: <db388fa4-be5f-454f-7bab-2a837480ca8d@kernel.org>
Date:   Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:24:04 -0600
From:   shuah <shuah@...nel.org>
To:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Cc:     Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...tlin.com>,
        Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@...aro.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org,
        shuah <shuah@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests/kselftest/runner.sh: Add 45 second timeout per
 test

On 9/19/19 3:17 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 02:09:37PM -0600, shuah wrote:
>> On 9/19/19 12:55 PM, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
>>> On 19/09/2019 11:06:44-0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>>>> Commit a745f7af3cbd ("selftests/harness: Add 30 second timeout per
>>>> test") solves the problem of kselftest_harness.h-using binary tests
>>>> possibly hanging forever. However, scripts and other binaries can still
>>>> hang forever. This adds a global timeout to each test script run.
>>>>
>>
>> Timeout is good, but really tests should not hang. So we have to somehow
>> indicate that the test needs to be fixed.
> 
> Totally agreed, which is why I changed the reporting to call out a
> "TIMEOUT" instead of just having it enter the general failure noise.
> 
>> This timeout is a band-aid and not real solution for the problem. This
>> arbitrary value doesn't take into account that the test(s) in that
>> particular directory (TARGET) could be running normally and working
>> through all the tests.
> 
> Even something that looks like it's making progress may still be hung or
> won't finish in a reasonable amount of time.
> 
>> We need some way to differentiate the two cases.
> 
> I don't think it's unreasonable to declare that no test should take
> longer than some default amount of time that can be tweaked via a
> "settings" file. It gives the framework the option of easily removing
> tests that take "too long", etc. If the "timeout=..." value was made
> mandatory for each test directory, then the framework could actually
> filter based on expected worst-case run time.
> 
>>>> To make this configurable (e.g. as needed in the "rtc" test case),
>>>> include a new per-test-directory "settings" file (similar to "config")
>>>> that can contain kselftest-specific settings. The first recognized field
>>>> is "timeout".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Seems good to me. I was also wondering whether this is actually
>>> reasonable to have tests running for so long. I wanted to discuss that
>>> at LPC but I missed the session.
>>>
>>
>> There is the individual test times and overall kselftest run time. We
>> have lots of tests now and it does take long.
> 
> This patch seeks to implement a "timeout for a single test from
> kselftest's perspective". Some "individual" tests have many subtests
> (e.g. anything built with kselftest_harness.h) giving us the whole
> subtest issue. I think my solution here is a good middle ground: we
> specify the max run time for each executed test binary/script.
> 
> It's not clear to me if a v2 is needed? Is this patch fine as-is?
> 
> Thanks!
> 

v1 is good. I will pull this in for testing. I do like the way it is
done.

thanks,
-- Shuah

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