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Date:   Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:40:29 +0800
From:   Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>
To:     "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com, Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        sanjay.k.kumar@...el.com, kevin.tian@...el.com, yi.l.liu@...el.com,
        yi.y.sun@...el.com, iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        kvm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Use 1st-level for DMA remapping in guest

Hi,

On 9/24/19 4:25 AM, Raj, Ashok wrote:
> Hi Jacob
> 
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 12:27:15PM -0700, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>>
>>> In VT-d 3.0, scalable mode is introduced, which offers two level
>>> translation page tables and nested translation mode. Regards to
>>> GIOVA support, it can be simplified by 1) moving the GIOVA support
>>> over 1st-level page table to store GIOVA->GPA mapping in vIOMMU,
>>> 2) binding vIOMMU 1st level page table to the pIOMMU, 3) using pIOMMU
>>> second level for GPA->HPA translation, and 4) enable nested (a.k.a.
>>> dual stage) translation in host. Compared with current shadow GIOVA
>>> support, the new approach is more secure and software is simplified
>>> as we only need to flush the pIOMMU IOTLB and possible device-IOTLB
>>> when an IOVA mapping in vIOMMU is torn down.
>>>
>>>       .-----------.
>>>       |  vIOMMU   |
>>>       |-----------|                 .-----------.
>>>       |           |IOTLB flush trap |   QEMU    |
>>>       .-----------.    (unmap)      |-----------|
>>>       | GVA->GPA  |---------------->|           |
>>>       '-----------'                 '-----------'
>>>       |           |                       |
>>>       '-----------'                       |
>>>             <------------------------------
>>>             |      VFIO/IOMMU
>>>             |  cache invalidation and
>>>             | guest gpd bind interfaces
>>>             v
>> For vSVA, the guest PGD bind interface will mark the PASID as guest
>> PASID and will inject page request into the guest. In FL gIOVA case, I
>> guess we are assuming there is no page fault for GIOVA. I will need to
>> add a flag in the gpgd bind such that any PRS will be auto responded
>> with invalid.
> 
> Is there real need to enforce this? I'm not sure if there is any
> limitation in the spec, and if so, can the guest check that instead?

For FL gIOVA case, gPASID is always 0. If a physical device is passed
through, hPASID is also 0; If an mdev device (representing an ADI)
instead, hPASID would be the PASID corresponding to the ADI. The
simulation software (i.e. QEMU) maintains a map between gPASID and
hPASID.

I second Ashok's idea. We don't need to distinguish these two cases in
the api and handle page request interrupt in guest as an unrecoverable
one.

> 
> Also i believe the idea is to overcommit PASID#0 such uses. Thought
> we had a capability to expose this to the vIOMMU as well. Not sure if this
> is already documented, if not should be up in the next rev.
> 
> 
>>
>> Also, native use of IOVA FL map is not to be supported? i.e. IOMMU API
>> and DMA API for native usage will continue to be SL only?
>>>       .-----------.
>>>       |  pIOMMU   |
>>>       |-----------|
>>>       .-----------.
>>>       | GVA->GPA  |<---First level
>>>       '-----------'
>>>       | GPA->HPA  |<---Scond level
> 
> s/Scond/Second

Yes. Thanks!

Best regards,
Baolu

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