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Message-ID: <f63f55eb-969e-6364-5781-a227d0c04e4c@epam.com>
Date:   Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:16:46 +0000
From:   Oleksandr Andrushchenko <Oleksandr_Andrushchenko@...m.com>
To:     Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Julien Grall <julien.grall@....com>,
        Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>
CC:     "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@...e.de>,
        Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>,
        Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@...nel.org>,
        "xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
        Oleksandr Andrushchenko <andr2000@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] xen/gntdev: Stop abusing DT of_dma_configure API

On 9/26/19 1:46 PM, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2019-09-26 11:17 am, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
>>
>> On 9/26/19 12:49 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/25/19 10:50 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>> As the comment says, this isn't a DT based device. of_dma_configure()
>>>> is going to stop allowing a NULL DT node, so this needs to be fixed.
>>>
>>> And this can't work on arch not selecting CONFIG_OF and can select
>>> CONFIG_XEN_GRANT_DMA_ALLOC.
>>>
>>> We are lucky enough on x86 because, AFAICT, arch_setup_dma_ops is just
>>> a nop.
>>>
>> No luck is needed as [1] does nothing for those platforms not using
>> CONFIG_OF
>>>>
>>>> Not sure exactly what setup besides arch_setup_dma_ops is needed...
>>>
>>> We probably want to update dma_mask, coherent_dma_mask and
>>> dma_pfn_offset.
>>>
>>> Also, while look at of_configure_dma, I noticed that we consider the
>>> DMA will not be coherent for the grant-table. Oleksandr, do you know
>>> why they can't be coherent?
>> The main and the only reason to use of_configure_dma is that if we don't
>> then we
>> are about to stay with dma_dummy_ops [2]. It effectively means that
>> operations on dma-bufs
>> will end up returning errors, like [3], [4], thus not making it possible
>> for Xen PV DRM and DMA
>> part of gntdev driver to do what we need (dma-bufs in our use-cases
>> allow zero-copying
>> while using graphics buffers and many more).
>>
>> I didn't find any better way of achieving that, but of_configure_dma...
>> If there is any better solution which will not break the existing
>> functionality then
>> I will definitely change the drivers so we do not abuse DT )
>> Before that, please keep in mind that merging this RFC will break Xen PV
>> DRM +
>> DMA buf support in gntdev...
>> Hope we can work out some acceptable solution, so everyone is happy
>
> As I mentioned elsewhere, the recent dma-direct rework means that 
> dma_dummy_ops are now only explicitly installed for the ACPI error 
> case, so - much as I may dislike it - you should get regular 
> (direct/SWIOTLB) ops by default again.
Ah, my bad, I missed that change. So, if no dummy dma ops are to be used 
then
I believe we can apply both changes, e.g. remove of_dma_configure from 
both of the drivers.
>
> Coherency is trickier - if the guest is allocating buffers for the PV 
> device, which may be shared directly with hardware by the host driver, 
> then the coherency of the PV device should really reflect that of the 
> underlying hardware to avoid potential problems. There are some cases 
> where the stage 2 attributes alone wouldn't be enough to correct a 
> mismatch.
>
> Robin.
Thank you,
Oleksandr

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