linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 14/15] mm: Align THP mappings for non-DAX

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Message-ID: <5dc7b5c1-6d7d-90ee-9423-6eda9ecb005c@oracle.com>
Date:   Tue, 1 Oct 2019 06:18:28 -0600
From:   William Kucharski <william.kucharski@...cle.com>
To:     "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>
Cc:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/15] mm: Align THP mappings for non-DAX



On 10/1/19 5:32 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 05:21:26AM -0600, William Kucharski wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill@...temov.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 05:52:13PM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>> index cbe7d0619439..670a1780bd2f 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>> @@ -563,8 +563,6 @@ unsigned long thp_get_unmapped_area(struct file *filp, unsigned long addr,
>>>>
>>>> 	if (addr)
>>>> 		goto out;
>>>> -	if (!IS_DAX(filp->f_mapping->host) || !IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FS_DAX_PMD))
>>>> -		goto out;
>>>>
>>>> 	addr = __thp_get_unmapped_area(filp, len, off, flags, PMD_SIZE);
>>>> 	if (addr)
>>>
>>> I think you reducing ASLR without any real indication that THP is relevant
>>> for the VMA. We need to know if any huge page allocation will be
>>> *attempted* for the VMA or the file.
>>
>> Without a properly aligned address the code will never even attempt allocating
>> a THP.
>>
>> I don't think rounding an address to one that would be properly aligned to map
>> to a THP if possible is all that detrimental to ASLR and without the ability to
>> pick an aligned address it's rather unlikely anyone would ever map anything to
>> a THP unless they explicitly designate an address with MAP_FIXED.
>>
>> If you do object to the slight reduction of the ASLR address space, what
>> alternative would you prefer to see?
> 
> We need to know by the time if THP is allowed for this
> file/VMA/process/whatever. Meaning that we do not give up ASLR entropy for
> nothing.
> 
> For instance, if THP is disabled globally, there is no reason to align the
> VMA to the THP requirements.

I understand, but this code is in thp_get_unmapped_area(), which is only called
if THP is configured and the VMA can support it.

I don't see it in Matthew's patchset, so I'm not sure if it was inadvertently
missed in his merge or if he has other ideas for how it would eventually be 
called, but in my last patch revision the code calling it in do_mmap() looked 
like this:

#ifdef CONFIG_RO_EXEC_FILEMAP_HUGE_FAULT_THP
         /*
          * If THP is enabled, it's a read-only executable that is
          * MAP_PRIVATE mapped, the length is larger than a PMD page
          * and either it's not a MAP_FIXED mapping or the passed address is
          * properly aligned for a PMD page, attempt to get an appropriate
          * address at which to map a PMD-sized THP page, otherwise call the
          * normal routine.
          */
         if ((prot & PROT_READ) && (prot & PROT_EXEC) &&
                 (!(prot & PROT_WRITE)) && (flags & MAP_PRIVATE) &&
                 (!(flags & MAP_FIXED)) && len >= HPAGE_PMD_SIZE) {
                 addr = thp_get_unmapped_area(file, addr, len, pgoff, flags);

                 if (addr && (!(addr & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK))) {
                         /*
                          * If we got a suitable THP mapping address, shut off
                          * VM_MAYWRITE for the region, since it's never what
                          * we would want.
                          */
                         vm_maywrite = 0;
                 } else
                         addr = get_unmapped_area(file, addr, len, pgoff, flags);
         } else {
#endif

So I think that meets your expectations regarding ASLR.

    -- Bill