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Date:   Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:37:39 -0700
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@...il.com>
Cc:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, a.darwish@...utronix.de,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
        Nicholas Mc Guire <hofrat@...ntech.at>,
        the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@...nel.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: x86/random: Speculation to the rescue

On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 06:15:02PM +0200, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 04:53:52PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > Ahmed - would you be willing to test this on your problem case (with
> > the ext4 optimization re-enabled, of course)?
> >
> 
> So I pulled the patch and the revert of the ext4 revert as they're all
> now merged in master. It of course made the problem go away...
> 
> To test the quality of the new jitter code, I added a small patch on
> top to disable all other sources of randomness except the new jitter
> entropy code, [1] and made quick tests on the quality of getrandom(0).
> 
> Using the "ent" tool, [2] also used to test randomness in the Stephen
> Müller LRNG paper, on a 500000-byte file, produced the following
> results:
> 
>     $ ent rand-file
> 
>     Entropy = 7.999625 bits per byte.
> 
>     Optimum compression would reduce the size of this 500000 byte file
>     by 0 percent.
> 
>     Chi square distribution for 500000 samples is 259.43, and randomly
>     would exceed this value 41.11 percent of the times.
> 
>     Arithmetic mean value of data bytes is 127.4085 (127.5 = random).
> 
>     Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.148476594 (error 0.22 percent).
> 
>     Serial correlation coefficient is 0.001740 (totally uncorrelated = 0.0).
> 
> As can be seen above, everything looks random, and almost all of the
> statistical randomness tests matched the same kernel without the
> "jitter + schedule()" patch added (after getting it un-stuck).

Can you post the patch for [1]? Another test we should do is the
multi-boot test. Testing the stream (with ent, or with my dieharder run)
is mainly testing the RNG algo. I'd like to see if the first 8 bytes
out of the kernel RNG change between multiple boots of the same system.
e.g. read the first 8 bytes, for each of 100000 boots, and feed THAT
byte "stream" into ent...

-- 
Kees Cook

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