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Date:   Thu, 3 Oct 2019 17:36:08 +0100
From:   Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>,
        Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>,
        Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@...e.de>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@...il.com>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Stefan Wahren <wahrenst@....net>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...gle.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] compiler: enable CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING forcibly

On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 01:39:40PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 5:56 AM Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Then use the C preprocessor to force the inlining.  I'm sorry it's not
> > > as pretty as static inline functions.
> >
> > Which makes us lose the baby^H^H^H^Htype checking performed
> > on function parameters, requiring to add more ugly checks.
> 
> I'm 100% agreed on this.
> 
> If the inline change is being pushed by people who say "you should
> have used macros instead if you wanted inlining", then I will just
> revert that stupid commit that is causing problems.
> 
> No, the preprocessor is not the answer.
> 
> That said, code that relies on inlining for _correctness_ should use
> "__always_inline" and possibly even have a comment about why.
> 
> But I am considering just undoing commit 9012d011660e ("compiler:
> allow all arches to enable CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING") entirely. The
> advantages are questionable, and when the advantages are balanced
> against actual regressions and the arguments are "use macros", that
> just shows how badly thought out this was.

It's clear that opinions are divided on this issue, but you can add
an enthusiastic:

Acked-by: Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>

if you go ahead with the revert. I'm all for allowing the compiler to
make its own inlining decisions, but not when the potential for
miscompilation isn't fully understood and the proposed alternatives turn
the source into an unreadable mess. Perhaps we can do something different
for 5.5 (arch opt-in? clang only? invert the logic? work to move functions
over to __always_inline /before/ flipping the CONFIG option? ...?)

Will

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