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Message-ID: <20191007165611.GA26964@pc636>
Date:   Mon, 7 Oct 2019 18:56:11 +0200
From:   Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>
To:     Daniel Wagner <dwagner@...e.de>
Cc:     Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: vmalloc: Use the vmap_area_lock to protect
 ne_fit_preload_node

On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 06:34:43PM +0200, Daniel Wagner wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 06:23:30PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > Hello, Daniel, Sebastian.
> > 
> > > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 06:30:42PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > > > On 2019-10-04 18:20:41 [+0200], Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > > > > If we have migrate_disable/enable, then, i think preempt_enable/disable
> > > > > > should be replaced by it and not the way how it has been proposed
> > > > > > in the patch.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't think this patch is appropriate for upstream.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I agree. The discussion made this clear, this is only for -rt
> > > > trees. Initially I though this should be in mainline too.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, this was _before_ Uladzislau pointed out that you *just* moved
> > > the lock that was there from the beginning. I missed that while looking
> > > over the patch. Based on that I don't think that this patch is not
> > > appropriate for upstream.
> > > 
> > Yes that is a bit messy :) Then i do not see what that patch fixes in
> > mainline? Instead it will just add an extra blocking, i did not want that
> > therefore used preempt_enable/disable. But, when i saw this patch i got it
> > as a preparation of PREEMPT_RT merging work.
> 
> Maybe I should add some background info here as well. Currently, I am
> creating an -rt tree on v5.3 for which I need this patch (or a
> migrate_disable() version of it). So this is slightly independent of
> the work Sebiastian is doing. Though the mainline effort of PREEMPT_RT
> will hit this problem as well.
> 
> I understood Sebiastian wrong above. I thought he suggest to use the
> migrate_disable() approach even for mainline. 
> 
> I supppose, one thing which would help in this discussion, is what do
> you gain by using preempt_disable() instead of moving the lock up?
> Do you have performance numbers which could justify the code?
>
Actually there is a high lock contention on vmap_area_lock, because it
is still global. You can have a look at last slide:

https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/4/contributions/547/attachments/287/479/Reworking_of_KVA_allocator_in_Linux_kernel.pdf

so this change will make it a bit higher. From the other hand i agree
that for rt it should be fixed, probably it could be done like:

ifdef PREEMPT_RT
    migrate_disable()
#else
    preempt_disable()
...

but i am not sure it is good either.

--
Vlad Rezki

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