linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] mm: thp: move deferred split queue to memcg's nodeinfo

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Message-ID: <d96cf698-585a-c90b-c038-1009447d4daa@linux.alibaba.com>
Date:   Tue, 8 Oct 2019 16:09:29 -0700
From:   Yang Shi <yang.shi@...ux.alibaba.com>
To:     "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
Cc:     Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com,
        ktkhai@...tuozzo.com, hannes@...xchg.org, hughd@...gle.com,
        shakeelb@...gle.com, rientjes@...gle.com,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: thp: move deferred split queue to memcg's nodeinfo



On 10/8/19 7:44 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:30:30PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> On Mon 07-10-19 16:19:59, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> On 10/2/19 10:43 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>> On Wed 02-10-19 06:16:43, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>>> The commit 87eaceb3faa59b9b4d940ec9554ce251325d83fe ("mm: thp: make
>>>>> deferred split shrinker memcg aware") makes deferred split queue per
>>>>> memcg to resolve memcg pre-mature OOM problem.  But, all nodes end up
>>>>> sharing the same queue instead of one queue per-node before the commit.
>>>>> It is not a big deal for memcg limit reclaim, but it may cause global
>>>>> kswapd shrink THPs from a different node.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, 0-day testing reported -19.6% regression of stress-ng's madvise
>>>>> test [1].  I didn't see that much regression on my test box (24 threads,
>>>>> 48GB memory, 2 nodes), with the same test (stress-ng --timeout 1
>>>>> --metrics-brief --sequential 72  --class vm --exclude spawn,exec), I saw
>>>>> average -3% (run the same test 10 times then calculate the average since
>>>>> the test itself may have most 15% variation according to my test)
>>>>> regression sometimes (not every time, sometimes I didn't see regression
>>>>> at all).
>>>>>
>>>>> This might be caused by deferred split queue lock contention.  With some
>>>>> configuration (i.e. just one root memcg) the lock contention my be worse
>>>>> than before (given 2 nodes, two locks are reduced to one lock).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, moving deferred split queue to memcg's nodeinfo to make it NUMA
>>>>> aware again.
>>>>>
>>>>> With this change stress-ng's madvise test shows average 4% improvement
>>>>> sometimes and I didn't see degradation anymore.
>>>> My concern about this getting more and more complex
>>>> (http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191002084014.GH15624@dhcp22.suse.cz) holds
>>>> here even more. Can we step back and reconsider the whole thing please?
>>> What about freeing immediately after split via workqueue and also have a
>>> synchronous version called before going oom? Maybe there would be also
>>> other things that would benefit from this scheme instead of traditional
>>> reclaim and shrinkers?
>> That is exactly what we have discussed some time ago.
> Yes, I've posted the patch:
>
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190827125911.boya23eowxhqmopa@box
>
> But I still not sure that the approach is right. I expect it to trigger
> performance regressions. For system with pleanty of free memory, we will
> just pay split cost for nothing in many cases.

This is exactly what I'm concerned about as well.

>